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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Glen,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Do you think accepting your proposal for the device (i.e. printer) and making it available to both the client and the printer could work?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It means that not all IPP Everywhere conforming clients and printers would necessarily be interoperable and it would support Justin’s position that in this specific area market need should drive the discovery and the document formats a particular vendor found their customers reported were must haves.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just a thought …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>/Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>--</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul Tykodi<br>Principal Consultant<br>TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC<br><br>Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820<br>Mobile: 603-866-0712<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com">ptykodi@tykodi.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>WWW: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tykodi.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.tykodi.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ipp-bounces@pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Petrie, Glen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Sweet; ipp@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [IPP] IPP Everywhere and "The Great Compromise"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Mike (all)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>The change below pushes the burden to the printer (at an increased cost to the printer) while the Client, a software entity, has less burden. What is wrong with <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>1. Discovery:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> a. Clients MUST support DNS-SD and WS-Discovery <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'> b. Printers MUST support either DNS-SD or WS-Discovery and RECOMMENED to support both.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>2. Document Formats:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:27.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Clients MUST support both JPEG and PWG Raster <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:27.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Printers MUST support either JPEG or PWG Raster and RECOMMENDED to support both.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>This change to the printer requirements could mean a faster time to market since printers are already support one of the discoveries and documents formats but may not support both discoveries and document formats. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>As was discussed in the meeting, if either discovery or document format change in the future, the backward compatibility burden would have to be on the Client to deal with legacy printers. There 'may' be an issue of Client legacy but I content that is still easier to update Clients rather than printer firmware. In the event of a Cloud Print Service or a Print Manager; then, I would assume the "RECOMMEDED" support of both would be implemented. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'>Glen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]">[mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Sweet<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 20, 2012 6:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [IPP] IPP Everywhere and "The Great Compromise"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We discussed the PWG Last Call comments received thus far at today's IPP WG conference call. Two of the comments concerned the client requirements to support DNS-SD for discovery and both PWG Raster and JPEG for document formats After over an hour of spirited debate, the following "great compromise" was proposed to resolve the last call comments:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1. Discovery:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> a. Printers MUST support both DNS-SD and WS-Discovery (adds WS-Discovery)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> b. Clients MUST support at least one of DNS-SD and WS-Discovery (Clients can choose amongst the two required protocols)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2. Document Formats:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> a. Printers MUST support both JPEG and PWG Raster (no change)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> b. Clients MUST support at least one of JPEG and PWG Raster (relaxes conformance - previously a Client had to support both)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please comment on the proposed changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Andale Mono";color:black'>_________________________________________________________<br>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and <br>dangerous content by <a href="http://www.mailscanner.info/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, and is <br>believed to be clean. <o:p></o:p></p></div><br />--
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