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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Smith,<br><br></div>Both of these new values for "output-bin" are included in the latest<br></div>IANA registrations file that Mike sent me on Friday.<br><br></div>
Mike - I assume we should talk about IPP deprecation policy on<br></div>Monday? Should I wait to send this latest IANA registrations file<br></div>to Amanda until after our discussion at Monday's IPP meeting?<br><br>
</div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi there,<div><br></div><div>Where are we with the IANA registrations for these keywords?</div>
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<br><div><div>On 2014-07-15, at 1:06 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi,<br>
<br></div>I agree. All of this proposal looks right (with Smith's clarifications).<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Smith,<br>
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True about output-bin-actual being optional, so I agree with the proposed tweaks.<br>
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On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi Mike,<br>
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> A few tweaks:<br>
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> 'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.<br>
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> 'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.<br>
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> Since the “xxx-actual” attributes are only required by IPP/2.2 as per 5100.12, it is at least possible that a printer has implemented output bins but hasn’t implemented “xxx-actual” attribute support.<br>
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> Smith<br>
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> /**<br>
> Smith Kennedy<br>
> ATB Wireless Architect - PPS<br>
> Hewlett-Packard Co.<br>
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> On 2014-07-14, at 3:11 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> All,<br>
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>> We discussed the proposed values for the "output-bin" attribute at today's IPP concall and have some minor changes to the definitions along with a larger clarification for the "printer-output-tray" attribute.<br>
>><br>
>> However, one of the conclusions may need to change since after further research it appears that PWG 5100.8 did indeed define the "output-bin-actual" attribute as "1setOf (type2 keyword | name(MAX)))".<br>
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>> Thus, I would like to update the definition of the "output-bin" values to be as follows:<br>
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>> 'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.<br>
>><br>
>> 'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.<br>
>><br>
>> That would also imply that the 'auto' value should assign the chosen tray as well:<br>
>><br>
>> 'auto'; All of the output for the Job is sent to an implementation-defined output tray based on the Job Template and Document Template attributes. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.<br>
>><br>
>> ....<br>
>><br>
>> Since the "printer-output-tray" attribute is linked to the "output-bin-supported" attribute, we discussed how to report logical trays such as 'auto', 'collator', and 'job-separator'. We decided the following:<br>
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>> 1. Logical trays are provided by the service, so while they will be listed in the "printer-output-tray" attribute they will NOT be listed in the Printer MIB prtOutputTray table.<br>
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>> 2. Logical trays are reported in "printer-output-tray" using a 'type' value of 'other' (1). The values of the other fields are calculated in an implementation-defined behavior (roll-up status, etc.)<br>
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>> 3. The same behavior should be applied to "printer-input-tray" for the "media-source" value of 'auto'.<br>
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>> Comments?<br>
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>> _________________________________________________________<br>
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<br>
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