attachment
Hi Smith,<br><br>It's not advice to the IPP Client, but advice to the human user, just like<br>"job-charge-info" in PWG 5100.16. No enforceable legal implications.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094<br>Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi there,</div><div><br></div><div>Can you imagine any need for the Client to “prove” to the Printer or any other entity that the user has actually seen the offered terms of use content and has accepted it? Or is that burden just on the Client and the Client’s implementation to “do the right thing”? Not trying to add needless complexity and I’m no lawyer but this seems somewhat flimsy.</div><br><div>
<div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;word-wrap:break-word">Smith<br><br>/**<br> Smith Kennedy<br> Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS<br> Hewlett-Packard Co.<br>*/<br><br><br></div></div></div></div>
</div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 2014-12-18, at 1:14 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Hi Mike,<br><br>Then I'm a happy camper - thanks.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 <a href="tel:734-944-0094" value="+17349440094" target="_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 <a href="tel:906-494-2434" value="+19064942434" target="_blank">906-494-2434</a><br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ira,<br>
<br>
Absolutely, but it definitely applies to IPP INFRA and avoids an extra spec if we add it there... :)<br>
<br>
We can still recommend it in the IPP/2.0 update.<br>
<div><div><br>
<br>
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Mike,<br>
><br>
> I like this new attribute, but I'd like to be able to use it in (non-infra) ordinary<br>
> campus or enterprise network, to inform people of their rights/responsibilities<br>
> in using a Printer.<br>
><br>
> I'd like to be able to recommend it in IPP 2.0 next year.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> - Ira<br>
><br>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>
> mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
> Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 <a href="tel:734-944-0094" value="+17349440094" target="_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>
> Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 <a href="tel:906-494-2434" value="+19064942434" target="_blank">906-494-2434</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> All,<br>
><br>
> It occurred to me while reviewing the current Cloud Imaging Model document that we might want to have a way for a service to point a Client to a web page providing legal terms of use for the service or system. A short proposal:<br>
><br>
> 7.4.x printer-terms-of-use-uri (uri)<br>
><br>
> This Printer attribute provides a URL to a human-readable web page providing the legal terms of use for the Printer, such as an End-User License Agreement or service agreement. If supported, the value MUST refer to a cacheable resource [RFC7234] to allow a Client to know when the terms of use change.<br>
><br>
> Thoughts?<br>
><br>
> _________________________________________________________<br>
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> ipp mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br>
<br>
_________________________________________________________<br>
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div>
_______________________________________________<br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div>