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Hi Smith,<br><br>By "offiical", Mike just meant to resend with Mike's suggested title - we need an <br>IPP email archive of a prototype experience report in order to advance the spec <br>from Prototype draft to Stable draft for PWG Last Call.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094<br>Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi Mike,<div><br></div><div>By “official” do you mean as feedback on the IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Manual 1.0?</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 2015-01-08, at 1:25 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Eren,</span><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">We can probably add a delay and perhaps a repeat (with limit) to verify that we (eventually) get the right printer-state-reason value.</div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">If you can include this comment with any other observations you have about the test suite in an "official" message titled "IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Prototype Experience" then we can advance the self-certification document to "stable" status while we work out the kinks in the software...</div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Thanks!</div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Rodriguez, Eren <<a href="mailto:eren.rodriguez@hp.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">eren.rodriguez@hp.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">I have been playing with the IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification test suite and I would like to challenge a failure seen with our IPP printers at HP.<u></u><u></u></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">More specifically, i</span><span style="font-size:12pt">nside<span> </span><b>ipp-tests.test</b>, before test I-28</span><span style="font-size:12pt">, the tester is asked to remove any paper from the printer. So far so good.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">This test sends a JPEG Print-Job request before sending a Get-Printer-Attributes request right afterwards with the expectation that “media-needed” keyword should be in “printer-state-reasons”<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Due to hardware limitations, there may be printers in the world that cannot detect out of paper at the time when this Get-Printer-Attributes request arrives. For example, on this printer, we currently have “spool-area-full-report” to reflect we are working on the job.<u></u><u></u></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Since this is a JPEG, this printer will take in the data and reply back to the Print-Job request fairly quickly. However, it does not have media presence capabilities so it needs some time, beyond the time given by the test script, to go through the mechanical motions to detect out of paper.</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Let me know what you think of my observation.<u></u><u></u></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Thank you in advance,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Eren Rodriguez @ HP inkjet<u></u><u></u></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>ipp mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:'Andale Mono';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:'Andale Mono';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">_________________________________________________________<br>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair</div></span></span></div><br></div><span style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">ipp mailing list</span><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a><br style="font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;font-family:ArialMT;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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