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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Eren,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Rodriguez, Eren &lt;<a href="mailto:eren.rodriguez@hp.com" class="">eren.rodriguez@hp.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">While media presence does not seem to be required by IPP Everywhere, ipp-tests.test cases I-26 and I-28 assume otherwise.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Section 3.2.3.9 ("Printer Fault") explicitly mentions "out of paper" faults, and RFC 2911 (and 5100.14) require support for the "printer-state-reasons" attribute.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>That said, the intent is that IPP Everywhere printers be able to report "out of paper" primarily while a job is being printed (where it matters most). &nbsp;So I think the solution here is to drop the 'media-empty' test and add a delay before the 'media-needed' test.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Is 10 seconds sufficient delay after the Print-Job request?</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">I had posted about I-26 back in January. You can see the attached e-mail for more details. It is about giving printers more time to pull and realize an out of paper situation.<br class="">I-28 pauses to let testers remove paper out of a tray. Upon acknowledgement, it sends a Get-Printer-Attributes expecting &nbsp;'media-empty*' in "printer-state-reasons". Only printers with presence sensors can accomplish this.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks,<br class="">Eren Rodriguez @ HP Inc.<br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: <a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" class="">ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org" class="">mailto:ipp-bounces@pwg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Michael Sweet<br class="">Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:08 AM<br class="">To: ipp; IPP Everywhere Self-Certification discussion list<br class="">Subject: [IPP] Updated beta IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools posted<br class=""><br class="">All,<br class=""><br class="">I have posted updated IPP Everywhere Printer Self-Certification Tools based on the latest stable draft of the self-certification manual. &nbsp;Download links are below and on the IPP and IPP Everywhere web pages:<br class=""><br class=""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html" class="">http://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html</a><br class=""><br class=""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-osx.dmg" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-osx.dmg</a><br class=""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-rhel.tar.gz" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-rhel.tar.gz</a><br class=""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-ubuntu.tar.gz" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-ubuntu.tar.gz</a><br class=""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-windows.msi" class="">http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/sw-ippeveselfcert10-20151009-windows.msi</a><br class=""><br class="">Please report any problems with this software ASAP so I can address them.<br class=""><br class="">_________________________________________________________<br class="">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">ipp mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a><br class="">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp<br class=""><span id="cid:5B401509-A9E8-4ADB-B82C-0EE3C9A90706@eastlink.ca">&lt;Mail Attachment.eml&gt;</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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