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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks, Mike! That answers my questions, and I don't think we need any new keywords for "trimming-when".<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 5, 2016, at 4:42 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" class="">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><div style="direction: inherit;" class="">Smith,</div><br class="">Sent from my iPad</div><div class=""><br class="">On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">Hi Mike,</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">That won't work if the printer has the following, right? (Taken from ipptool output and slightly reformatted)</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">finishings-col-default =</span><br class=""><span class="">{</span><br class=""><span class="">  finishing-template=after-sheets</span><br class=""><span class="">  trimming-type=full</span><br class=""><span class="">  trimming-offset=500</span><br class=""><span class="">  trimming-when=after-sheets</span><br class=""><span class="">  trimming-reference-edge=bottom</span><br class=""><span class="">}</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">I guess a Client could send "finishings" = 'none' and not include "finishings-col". Is that how the Client is expected to disable trimming in this case?</span><br class=""></div></blockquote><div style="direction: inherit;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="direction: inherit;" class="">Yes, or pass 'no-value' or an empty collection in "finishings-col".</div><div style="direction: inherit;" class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Smith</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" class="">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Smith,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">If you don't want trimming done, you omit the trimming collection.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Oct 4, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Hi there,</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">In Finishings 2.0 / 2.1, the "trimming-when" member attribute has 4 keywords defined 'after-documents', 'after-job', 'after-sets', and 'after-sheets'. But what keyword would the user provide if they don't want the paper cut at all?</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Smith</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">/**</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">  Smith Kennedy</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">  Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">  Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">  Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">  HP Inc.</span><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">*/</span><br class=""><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