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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><div style="direction: inherit;">Smith,</div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:31 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Hi Mike,</span><br><span></span><br><span>That won't work if the printer has the following, right? (Taken from ipptool output and slightly reformatted)</span><br><span></span><br><span>finishings-col-default =</span><br><span>{</span><br><span>  finishing-template=after-sheets</span><br><span>  trimming-type=full</span><br><span>  trimming-offset=500</span><br><span>  trimming-when=after-sheets</span><br><span>  trimming-reference-edge=bottom</span><br><span>}</span><br><span></span><br><span>I guess a Client could send "finishings" = 'none' and not include "finishings-col". Is that how the Client is expected to disable trimming in this case?</span><br></div></blockquote><div style="direction: inherit;"><br></div><div style="direction: inherit;">Yes, or pass 'no-value' or an empty collection in "finishings-col".</div><div style="direction: inherit;"><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span><br><span>Smith</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Smith,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If you don't want trimming done, you omit the trimming collection.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 4, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi there,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In Finishings 2.0 / 2.1, the "trimming-when" member attribute has 4 keywords defined 'after-documents', 'after-job', 'after-sets', and 'after-sheets'. But what keyword would the user provide if they don't want the paper cut at all?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Smith</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>/**</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>  Smith Kennedy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>  Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>  Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB IF</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>  Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>  HP Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ipp mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org">ipp@pwg.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_________________________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br></div></blockquo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