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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>The IEEE 3D Medical standards work I know about is coming from the P3333 effort.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>                Modeling                             3333.2.1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>                Visualization                       3333.2.2<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>                Data Management          3333.2.3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>                Simulation                           3333.2.4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>                Printing                                3333.2.5 & ISO TC 261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>I haven’t been involved with the liaison efforts involving the IEEE P3030 and P3333 groups as I believe that Smith is working with our IEEE-ISTO PWG Program Administrator (Jane Celusak) to try and forge initial contact with these groups.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>DICOM is recognized by the P3333 effort, as playing an important role in the Additive Manufacturing processing ecosystem within the medical community, but so far I do not know of any efforts involving possible cooperative work between DICOM, IEEE SA P3333, and the PWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>The possibility for the PWG to cooperate with DICOM directly involves a new project 2017-04-E assigned to DICOM WG-17 called “3D-Print-Model-Storage”. I believe the effort is meant to develop a mechanism for wrapping well known 3D file formats like STL with DICOM defined medical information. When this work is completed, DICOM may want to work with the PWG to develop semantics for 3D Job Ticketing to be used with the DICOM specified wrapped 3D model files. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>The semantics would ultimately be collected by SME and presented to ASTM F42/ISO TC 261 for inclusion in ISO/ASTM 52900:2015 “Additive manufacturing -- General principles – Terminology”. This is why this potential collaboration with DICOM would result in our needing to have a liaison in place with ASTM. In the event there were questions about PWG defined 3D semantic terms being included with the terminology being submitted by SME to ASTM/ISO for inclusion in a medical terminology section to be added to the existing standard, we wouldn’t necessarily be able to respond without the liaison agreement being in place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Let me know if you need any further information on these items.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#203864;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%'>/Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>--</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Paul Tykodi<br>Principal Consultant<br>TCS - Tykodi Consulting Services LLC<br>Tel/Fax: 603-343-1820<br>Mobile:  603-866-0712<br>E-mail:  <a href="mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com">ptykodi@tykodi.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>WWW:  </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.tykodi.com/"><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>http://www.tykodi.com</span></a></span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>This e-mail reply and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Tykodi Consulting Services LLC <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>immediately by replying to this message and destroying all copies of this message <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>and any attachments. Thank you</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> wamwagner@comcast.net [mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 17, 2017 2:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Tykodi <ptykodi@tykodi.com><br><b>Cc:</b> ipp <ipp@pwg.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Medical 3D, IEEE P3033.2<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Going over my notes and the formal notes of IPP and Plenary meetings, there seems to be some discontinuity with regard to what was referred to as P3053 and the DICOM standard. I  recognize that this business I very confusing, and I apologize if I have mixed up some of your information.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The August  F2F IPP minutes refer to IEEE P3353, although I recall hearing P3033 as dealing with medical 3D aspects. I have found nothing on either IEEE workgroup but have found IEEE SA PARs under P3033.2 dealing with:<span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Standard for Three-Dimensional (3D) Medical Visualization</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Standard for Three-Dimensional (3D) Medical Data Management<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Standard for Three-Dimensional (3D) Medical Simulation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Standard for Bio-CAD File Format for Medical Three-Dimensional (3D) Printing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>            Is it personnel associated with one of these activities that you have been referring to as interested in IPP, and if so, which?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The minutes indicate “ASTM liaison needed to interface with DICOM (Digital Imaging and Communications in Medicine) medical imaging/3D printing wrapper standards.” However, I thought it was the one of the IEEE P3033.2  groups that was interested in using DICAM (I assume the DICOM file format). Further, DICOM is owned by NEMA, so, if we needed a liaison it would need to be with NEMA?<o:p></o:p></li></ol></div></div><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>At any rate, it appears that the DICOM organization itself has a 3D-Print-Model-Storage work item (as, it appears, everyone does). <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>No rush on answering these questions. Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Bill W.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>