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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Ira,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">If the template had the IANA section included and the relevant data was simply not added, then I completely agree with your earlier suggestion to include the item in the last call comments.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Thanks.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Best Regards,</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">/Paul</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Nov 17, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Paul,<br><br></div>Several comments:<br><br></div>1) The IANA section was NOT missing in the template.<br></div>2) The PWG Process for IPP Registrations is work-in-progress in SC.<br></div>3) This is a WG last call, NOT a PWG last call.<br></div><div>4) Stop, revise, and restart is a slippery slope that does not have any</div><div>existing PWG Process 3.0 sanction for WG last call.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>- Ira</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Paul Tykodi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptykodi@tykodi.com" target="_blank">ptykodi@tykodi.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi Smith,</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">Since we missed a required section in the template, I personally like the re-publish and re-start option as opposed to considering it as a last call comment.</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">Generally I am seeing this as a process failure (i. e. template used was missing a required section) rather than a content related issue.</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">I realize adding the section into the document adds content so I think either proposed solution will work fine within PWG process rules.</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">Thanks.</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">Best Regards,</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">/Paul</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature">P.S. - Thanks Mike for catching this issue.</div><div id="m_8123283183656896416AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Nov 17, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Wow, I wonder how I missed that too! I can hammer out another revision and we can re-issue the last call. Or we can just treat this as conventional last call feedback. Which do you and the IPP WG prefer?<br>
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On Nov 17, 2017, at 6:34 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>One Apple comment: there is no IANA Considerations section! (and I don't believe I missed this with all of the reviews we did!)</span><br>
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<span>You'll need two subsections to register the new operation and its corresponding value, to insert before the current section 8 (references) - the current reg-template.docx has the necessary text you can copy from:</span><br>
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<span>N.1 Type2 enum Registrations</span><br>
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<span>The attributes defined in this registration will be published by IANA according to the procedures in IPP Model and Semantics [RFC8011] section 7.1 in the following file:</span><br>
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<span> <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipp-registrations" target="_blank">http://www.iana.org/<wbr>assignments/ipp-registrations</a></span><br>
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<span> 0x0066 Get-User-Printer-<wbr>Attributes [IPPGUPA]</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:25 PM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>> wrote:</span><br>
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