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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Smith,<br><br></div>Probably on my end - my ISP seems to be selectively going in the weeds for PWG (otherwise working<br></div>fine to all other sites so far this morning) - yesterday, PWG home page was taking *forever* with Firefox<br></div>mentioning stalled CDN servers.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br><br></div>PS - I'm going to do a hard reboot - have stopped and reloaded Firefox several times.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094<br>May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Hmmm, maybe something on your end? HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP all working for me to both <a href="http://ftp.pwg.org" target="_blank">ftp.pwg.org</a> and <a href="http://www.pwg.org" target="_blank">www.pwg.org</a>.<div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><div>
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Mar 12, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_990458091754800634Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>From here (Detroit area in Michigan), entire PWG site (HTTP and FTP) has been down for several hours.<br></div>I can't reach the home page via HTTP. FTP connects, but an "ls" hangs indefinitely and Control-C hangs<br></div>trying to break the connections.<br><br></div>So I can't fetch these files just now.<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>- Ira<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_990458091754800634gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/<wbr>highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Jan-April: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 <a href="tel:(734)%20944-0094" value="+17349440094" target="_blank">734-944-0094</a><br>May-Dec: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 <a href="tel:(906)%20494-2434" value="+19064942434" target="_blank">906-494-2434</a><br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Smith,<br>
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Some quick feedback after looking at the new draft:<br>
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- Abstract: The wording here seems a little redundantly redundant. :)<br>
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- Sections 4.1.3 and 4.1.5: RFC updates - 7616 for Digest and 7617 for Basic.<br>
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- Section 4.1.6 (and this is probably an errata for IPP Scan and IPP INFRA as well): access-x509-certificate is insufficient by itself for authentication - you need the private key as well to do the signing (to prove that you "own" the certificate...) Probably need to say that the printer obtains the signing key through an out-of-band means.<br>
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- Section 5.1: Not sure how to use this attribute; we don't have its equivalent for IPP Scan or INFRA.<br>
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- I think we'll need to add an Additional Semantics section to briefly say that job-save-accesses gets copied to the Job Object but not returned as a Job attribute.<br>
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- Section 16: Should say more about protecting the values of job-save-accesses in transit and at rest.<br>
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Overall I think the draft is shaping up, although my gut says we still need to frame/document the scope and usage a little more - right now I can see how this would provide credentials for the save process but not how it requires those credentials for the reprint use case.<br>
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> On Mar 11, 2018, at 11:24 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architec) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Greetings,<br>
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> I have just posted a new draft of IPP Job Save Password:<br>
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> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i<wbr>pp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-<wbr>20180311.pdf</a><br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311.odt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i<wbr>pp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-<wbr>20180311.odt</a><br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i<wbr>pp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-<wbr>20180311-rev.pdf</a><br>
> <a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-20180311-rev.odt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/i<wbr>pp/whitepaper/tb-savepassword-<wbr>20180311-rev.odt</a><br>
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> This draft refactors the proposed attributes as per the discussion back in December 2017 and that we further briefly discussed at the February 2018 F2F.<br>
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> Cheers,<br>
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> Smith<br>
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> /**<br>
> Smith Kennedy<br>
> Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS<br>
> Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF<br>
> Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
> HP Inc.<br>
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