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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Bill,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the feedback! I'll do a pass over the current draft to see if there are similar issues further into the document as well...</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 22, 2019, at 6:40 PM, <a href="mailto:wamwagner@comcast.net" class="">wamwagner@comcast.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Sorry, should have brought these questions up sooner, but we have looked at pieces of this over such a long time I was waiting for a more or less complete final version. These are my reactions on reading the spec, although I haven’t gotten that far. Don’t need a formal response, but perhaps we can address them sometime in conference.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Thanks<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Format:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">a. Three paragraph breaks at top margin seems excessive , Some unfortunate page breaks. (5, 18, 21)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">b. assorted double spaces<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Line 932 "a Resource by analogy to to “date-time-at-processing<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">para 1.1 --1.3 Do These really belong here, and with this level of detail? Uses terminology in section 2.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">382 Rationale for Two ... - " IPP System object and (via a System response to the Get-Printers operation) zero or more IPP Printer objects" Why two? Perhaps multiple?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">440 "<i class="">System</i>: Listener for incoming..."<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">a. Should this be Imaging System? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">b. Do we need same entity in both Protocol and Printer Terminology? (e.g., Printer)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">c. Do Printer, System entities under protocol correspond to Printer and System Objects described later?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">483 "<i class="">Imaging System:</i> A logical or physical system supports a System object and a System Service for monitoring and management of one or more Imaging Services"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">a. That supports? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">b. Before the statement was " zero or more IPP Printer objects" Zero or one? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">c. Is the Imaging System managing Printer Objects, Printers or Imaging Services? Can we use Imaging Service rather than Printer after having defined them as synonymous?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">470. FaxoutJob, Why not use Job in definition? Also in Scan Job, Transform Job, Print Job.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">595 "After Jane initiates service enumeration by using the IPP Client on her laptop to send a query to the Imaging System for the list of available services." No After?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">3.2.4 " to extend the functionality of the Imaging System" Is it the functionality of the Imaging System or of Imaging Services supported by the Imaging System?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Should some mention be made in used cases of user restictions on some System Service operations?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">646 "managed Imaging System"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">a. Why 'managed"?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">b. print service is a defined term(initial Caps)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">648. Why "system" in this document and not Imaging System?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">653. Note is interesting, but does it belong here?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">666. to reuse existing IPP Printer operations and attributes in the individual Imaging Services, but NOT directly in this specification" <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">a. The "but ..." phrase is unclear.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">b. Printer vs Imaging Service. Confusing, since definitions said they were synonymous<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; line-height: 18.399999618530273px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">c. Note?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">674, 681, " but NOT directly in this specification" same question<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Michael Sweet via ipp</a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:05 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">PWG IPP Workgroup</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[IPP] WG Last Call: IPP System Service v1.0 (Ends May 31, 2019)</div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">All,</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This message starts the IPP Workgroup Last Call of the IPP System Service v1.0 specification, available at:</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20190515.pdf" class="">https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippsystem10-20190515.pdf</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">All required (and many optional/recommended) portions of this specification have been prototyped in the "ippserver" program in the IPP Sample Code project.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please reply to this message with any feedback, which we can review at the following IPP workgroup conference call.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks!</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">_________________________________________________________</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">ipp mailing list</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp</a></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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