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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Smith,</div><div><br></div><div>If the revised/renamed document adds conformance <br></div><div>requirements (it does - all of this cluster of revisions</div><div>do so), then I suggest it should be v2.0 (truth-in-</div><div>advertising) because the same IPP attributes now</div><div>have new conformance and usage constraints.</div><div><br></div><div>Mike - WDYT?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>- Ira</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div>Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br></div><div dir="ltr">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 11:40 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">So if it is now named "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions (NODRIVER)", what version number, since it is a renamed / rebranded JPS3?<div><br>
<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div><div>Signed PGP part</div><div><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">+1. Will go with that.<div><br><div>
Smith<br><br>/**<br> Smith Kennedy<br> HP Inc.<br>*/
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<div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" target="_blank">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div dir="auto">Ira,<div><br></div><div>NODRIVER works for me as well.<br><br><div dir="ltr">____________________<div>Michael Sweet</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Mike,</div><div><br></div><div>See my reply to Uli just now.</div><div><br></div><div>For simplicity, how about "nodriver"?</div><div><br></div><div>I never visually parse things like "DRVR" and I doubt others do.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>- Ira</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</div><div>Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br></div><div dir="ltr">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br><br><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div style="display:inline"></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 3:29 PM Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" target="_blank">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Ira,<br>
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It doesn't roll off the tongue quite as easily as "NODRVR", and I think the "ipp" that comes before it should hint at the focus on printing, but I don't have a strong objection to it.<br>
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> On Oct 18, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Mike,<br>
> <br>
> I hadn't thought about "DLP".<br>
> <br>
> How about "nodprt" (No Driver Printing) to preserve the printing aspect.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> - Ira<br>
> <br>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br>
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>
> mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 1:22 PM Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" target="_blank">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Ira,<br>
> <br>
> How about "DRVRLS" or "NODRVR" as the acronym? DLPX makes me think of a super version of DLP projectors... :)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi,<br>
> > <br>
> > To avoid the growing collection of three-letter acronyms ending in 'x',<br>
> > I suggest 'ippdlpx' (DLPX) to emphasize that it's about *not* needing<br>
> > special drivers.<br>
> > <br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > - Ira<br>
> > <br>
> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
> > Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br>
> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>
> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
> > <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
> > <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>
> > mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
> > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:12 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" target="_blank">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > I'm fine with renaming it to be "Driverless Printing Extensions" - will change it in the next draft once the current one has been reviewed.<br>
> > <br>
> > Smith<br>
> > <br>
> > /**<br>
> > Smith Kennedy<br>
> > HP Inc.<br>
> > */<br>
> > <br>
> >> On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Ira McDonald via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Hi Mike,<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Thank you!<br>
> >> <br>
> >> +1<br>
> >> <br>
> >> I like "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions" best of your suggestions<br>
> >> (because "Mobile" is too narrow and "Universal" is too ambiguous).<br>
> >> <br>
> >> JPS3 is a meaningless name.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Cheers,<br>
> >> - Ira<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
> >> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
> >> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br>
> >> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
> >> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
> >> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br>
> >> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
> >> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
> >> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
> >> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br>
> >> mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
> >> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434<br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:53 PM Michael Sweet via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> All,<br>
> >> <br>
> >> As I start to prepare the slides for the November F2F, it occurs to me that we have made some useful name changes to historical specifications:<br>
> >> <br>
> >> - PWG 5100.3 ("IPP Production Printing Attributes - Set 1") renamed to "IPP Production Printing Extensions"<br>
> >> - PWG 5100.11 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 2") renamed to "IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions"<br>
> >> <br>
> >> That just leaves PWG 5100.13 ("IPP Job and Printer Extensions - Set 3"), which has a strong focus on "driverless" printing. I suggest we rename JPS3 to something that indicates its focus, for example:<br>
> >> <br>
> >> "IPP Driverless Printing Extensions"<br>
> >> <br>
> >> "IPP Driver Equivalence Extensions"<br>
> >> <br>
> >> "IPP Mobile Printing Extensions"<br>
> >> <br>
> >> "IPP Universal Printing Extensions"<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Thoughts?<br>
> >> <br>
> >> ________________________<br>
> >> Michael Sweet<br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
> >> <br>
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> > <br>
> <br>
> ________________________<br>
> Michael Sweet<br>
> <br>
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> <br>
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