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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 1, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Hi,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm guessing (?) that the Google ranking was simply because it was the oldest</div><div class="">link on PWG site to the topic.  Anyway, second guessing search engine rankings</div><div class="">is a waste of everyone's time.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I don't know if it would help, but we don't have a "robots.txt" at the root of the FTP site, but perhaps we should.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,<br class=""></div><div class="">- Ira</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">PS - Smith, you can *copy* whitepapers into '/wd' (although you shouldn't, by our</div><div class="">Namespace Policy), but you *must not* intentionally break posted document links</div><div class="">(just like the IETF, that's our long-term promise about publicly posted drafts).</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>The problem is that I and perhaps others erroneously put a number of documents that have seemingly finalized titles (e.g. the one that Chris was confused about - tb-doccrypt-20180205.pdf) into /pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper, which makes them appear as though they were ratified, when the title page and other locations reveals they are actually working drafts. ðŸ˜ž We can discuss how to deal with this mess in a separate dialog in the SC since this isn't strictly speaking an IPP WG issue. But it benefits the IPP WG if draft work doesn't appear to be ratified to those not attuned to these details. I agree it will break links, but in this case that may turn out to be a feature rather than a bug.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br class="">Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG</font></i></div><div class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG<br class=""></font></i></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><i class=""><font size="1" class="">Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br class="">Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br class="">Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG<br class="">IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br class="">Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br class=""><a style="color:rgb(51,51,255)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br class=""><a style="color:rgb(102,0,204)" href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank" class="">http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</a><br class="">mailto: <a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br class="">(permanent) PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434</font></i></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 5:00 PM Rizzo, Christopher <<a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com" class="">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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<div class="gmail-m_3869401096058387066WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Smith,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Google "ipp document encryption".  It is the 1<sup class="">st</sup> result.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Chris<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">Email: <a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com" target="_blank" class="">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">"The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<b class="">Date: </b>Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 1:54 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Christopher Rizzo <<a href="mailto:Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com" target="_blank" class="">Christopher.Rizzo@xerox.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>>, PWG Workgroup <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" target="_blank" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>><br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">If you don't mind my asking, how did you come across this document? Were you browsing the FTP site directly? Or did it pop up in a search engine? I posted a bunch of draft documents into /pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper and I'm not sure that was
 the right thing to do. If not, I'm going to consider moving them to /pub/pwg/ipp/wd even though that will break links in the reflector archive.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">That whitepaper is obsoleted by the standards-track IPP Encrypted Jobs and Documents<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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