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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2">FYI - better timestamps.</font><br><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Francesca Palombini</b> <span dir="auto"><francesca.palombini=<a href="mailto:40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org">40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 10:46 AM<br>Subject: Re: [dispatch] [Sedate] WG Review: Serialising Extended Data About Times and Events (sedate)<br>To: <a href="mailto:sedate@ietf.org">sedate@ietf.org</a> <<a href="mailto:sedate@ietf.org">sedate@ietf.org</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:dispatch@ietf.org">dispatch@ietf.org</a> <<a href="mailto:dispatch@ietf.org">dispatch@ietf.org</a>><br></div><br><br>Hi all,<br>
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(CC dispatch for information)<br>
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The charter for the Sedate working group has passed the first phase and is now in external review. Additionally, the sedate mailing list has been created. Do go over there and subscribe if you are interested.<br>
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Now is the time to let the IESG know of any comment you might have on the charter text.<br>
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I am also looking for volunteers to chair the wg. It is ok to volunteer someone you think would be a good fit. I hope that, given the interest in this work, we will not have problems finding chairs, but as a reminder: please do consider volunteering if you support this work, as with no chairs there will be no working group.<br>
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Please reply to this thread (dropping the dispatch mailing list), or send an email to the IESG (<a href="mailto:iesg@ietf.org" target="_blank">iesg@ietf.org</a>), or directly to me with any comments on the charter, or volunteering as chair.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Francesca<br>
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On 01/06/2021, 16:02, "Sedate on behalf of The IESG" <<a href="mailto:sedate-bounces@ietf.org" target="_blank">sedate-bounces@ietf.org</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org" target="_blank">iesg-secretary@ietf.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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A new IETF WG has been proposed in the Applications and Real-Time Area. The<br>
IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was<br>
submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your<br>
comments to the IESG mailing list (<a href="mailto:iesg@ietf.org" target="_blank">iesg@ietf.org</a>) by 2021-06-11.<br>
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Serialising Extended Data About Times and Events (sedate)<br>
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Current status: Proposed WG<br>
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Chairs:<br>
TBD<br>
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Assigned Area Director:<br>
Francesca Palombini <<a href="mailto:francesca.palombini@ericsson.com" target="_blank">francesca.palombini@ericsson.com</a>><br>
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Applications and Real-Time Area Directors:<br>
Murray Kucherawy <<a href="mailto:superuser@gmail.com" target="_blank">superuser@gmail.com</a>><br>
Francesca Palombini <<a href="mailto:francesca.palombini@ericsson.com" target="_blank">francesca.palombini@ericsson.com</a>><br>
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Charter: <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sedate/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-sedate/</a><br>
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RFC3339 defines a format that can reliably express an instant in time, either<br>
in UTC or in a local time along with the offset against UTC. However,<br>
datetime data often has additional context, such as the timezone or calendar<br>
system that was in use when that instant was recorded. Particularly when<br>
using times for interval, recurrence, or offset calculations, it is necessary<br>
to know the context in which the timepoint exists.<br>
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It is valuable to have a serialisation format that retains this context and<br>
can reliably round-trip the additional context to systems that understand it,<br>
via intermediate systems that only need to know about the instant in time.<br>
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The TC39 working group at ECMA have developed a format that is a good basis<br>
for this work: draft-ryzokuken-datetime-extended.<br>
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It is anticipated that this document would be a companion to RFC3339 rather<br>
than a replacement, embedding an unaltered RFC3339 instant along with the<br>
contextual data.<br>
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It is also within scope for this working group to consider a minor update to<br>
RFC3339 to allow larger than four-digit signed years, to enable representing<br>
times further into the past and future.<br>
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It is anticipated that this working group will publish one or two documents<br>
on the work mentioned above. After that, the working group will close down or<br>
recharter.<br>
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The working group will coordinate with ECMA International TC39 and ISO TC154.<br>
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Milestones:<br>
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Dec 2021 - Submit extended date and time draft to the IESG for publication<br>
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