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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Just closing the loop on this thread and today's teleconference. I don't think we need "max-sheets" since "media-sheets-supported" already fills this need.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2021, at 9:48 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="content-isolator__container"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Mike,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't know why this didn't occur to me earlier, but I think this issue is already covered by the "media-sheets-supported" additional member of "finishings-col" defined in section 7.9. đ I think we are good with what we have already - no additional attributes needed.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="content-isolator__container"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi again,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I guess one other way this might be conveyed is to add a "job-max-pages-per-set-supported" member to "finishings-col" and add that as an additional member of "finishings-col-ready: / "finishings-col-database" collections, so that it can be used by all finishings operations?</div><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 3, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <<a href="mailto:ipp@pwg.org" class="">ipp@pwg.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 3, 2021, at 8:20 AM, Michael Sweet <<a href="mailto:msweet@msweet.org" class="">msweet@msweet.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">On Aug 2, 2021, at 5:53 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) <<a href="mailto:smith.kennedy@hp.com" class="">smith.kennedy@hp.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="">You have in these minutes this statement about section 5.2.6 "folding (1setOf collection)":</div>
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<div class="">â Add something to talk about folding applying to the set, except as noted (e.g. poster fold is normally done to individual sheets)</div>
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<div class="">I'm not sure what to do about this because the . Are you saying that the size of the Set or how many Media Sheets should be folded may depend on the type of the fold? So if the Client sends a 4 page document and supplies "finishing" = 'fold-poster',
the Printer might fold every Media Sheet, but if the Client instead supplies "finishing" = 'fold-half' the Printer may instead fold all 4 pages together?</div>
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<div class="">Maybe we need to add a "folding-when"?</div>
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So the issue here is that some kinds of folds can be applied per-sheet or per-set, but some can *only* be applied per set (fold-double-gate, fold-parallel), others can *only* be applied per sheet (fold-half-z, fold-poster), and the rest can be applied either
way depending on the amount of folding done and output bin/tray.
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<div class="">Look at figure 1's fold images to get a visual sense of this - folds along both axis need to be applied per-sheet, while overlapping folds need to be applied per-set. So this is definitely implementation/process-specific, but we want folding
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<div class="">As you know well, we have two needs: describing a folding operation to a Client, and describing a custom folding operation to the Printer. </div>
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<div class="">In both cases, a âfolding-whenâ would be useful. The Client needs to know the range of options it could use (1 or more than 1 option). And if there is the possibility of a choice, the Client needs a member to convey that choice to the Printer. </div>
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<div class="">Expressing this via the current finishings-col is going to be a little bit awkward because folding is expressed as an ordered sequence of folding collections. Maybe aâfolding-whenâ as a member of the first âfoldingâ collection? Or as a separate peer to
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