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Hi Pete and Nancy,<br><br>Given that we keep AvailableResources as a top System element,<br>I suggest the following conclusions:<br><br>(1) A ResourceService MAY be started using SystemControlService<br> (or via factory installed configuration)<br>
- but a System NEED NOT support ResourceService<br><br>(2) At most ONE ResourceService may started on a given System<br> - that is, no partitioning of Resource types is allowed across<br> different running instances of ResourceService<br>
- this preserves the administrator's tight control of installed<br> resources, especially firmware<br><br>(3) The installation of temporary Resources (e.g., Job-scope scripts)<br> by End Users is OPTIONAL and MUST require strong access<br>
control if supported<br> - otherwise it's not feasible to verify a Trusted System MFD<br><br>WDYT?<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:18 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com">Nancy.Chen@okidata.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Hi Pete,</font>
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<br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">I'd like to keep AvailableResources.
It's important to keep an inventory of installed system resources
and all information about them so that they can be easily tracked for product
installation as well as updated/upgraded later.</font>
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<br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Thanks,</font>
<br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">-Nancy</font>
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Ira McDonald <<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a>></font>
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</td><td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Re: [MFD] RE: Missing semantic text
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<br><tt><font size="2">Hi Pete,<br>
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<br><tt><font size="2">I would prefer to keep the top-level AvailableResources
element.<br>
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<br><tt><font size="2">Otherwise, an MFD can only implement Resources if
it publishes a<br>
Resource service. And the System Control Service can't modify<br>
metadata (such as expiration dates) on Resources or query them.<br>
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<br><tt><font size="2">That means no CIM or other translation of PWG SM can
expose<br>
the Resource instances.<br>
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<br><tt><font size="2">Cheers,<br>
- Ira<br>
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<br><tt><font size="2">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG<br>
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB<br>
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br>
<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank">http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</a><br>
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mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>
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<a href="tel:734-944-0094" value="+17349440094" target="_blank">734-944-0094</a></font></tt>
<br><tt><font size="2">May to Christmas:<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
<a href="tel:906-494-2434" value="+19064942434" target="_blank">906-494-2434</a></font></tt>
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<br><tt><font size="2">On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Zehler, Peter <<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com" target="_blank">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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<br></div></div><tt><font size="2"><div><div></div><div class="h5">> Nancy,****<br>
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> *From:* <a href="mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com" target="_blank">Nancy.Chen@okidata.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:Nancy.Chen@okidata.com" target="_blank">Nancy.Chen@okidata.com</a>]<br>
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> *To:* Zehler, Peter<br>
> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:mfd@pwg.org" target="_blank">mfd@pwg.org</a><br>
> *Subject:* Missing semantic text for elements specific to System Object
in<br>
> System Control Service spec****<br>
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> Hi Pete,<br>
><br>
> In the System Control Service spec, the following elements are specific
to<br>
> the System Object, hence are not defined in MFD Model spec. Would
you<br>
> please add their semantic text ?<br>
><br>
> in Section 6.2, the text for the following elements are missing in<br>
> SystemDescription: ****<br>
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><br>
> AvailableResources<br>
> <PZ>Removed from model. It was added for the stalled<br></div></div>
> <a href="ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_RES/draft-ietf-ipp-get-resource-00.pdfspecification" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_RES/draft-ietf-ipp-get-resource-00.pdfspecification</a></PZ><div>
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> ****<br>
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> DevicesSupported ****<br>
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> <PZ>Removed due to no clean mapping to PWG5104.2 and lack of
PSI support or<br>
> PSI implementations.</PZ><br>
> ServicesSupported ****<br>
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> <PZ>Added</PZ>****<br>
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> in Section 6.3, the text for the following elements are missing in<br>
> SystemStatus:<br>
><br>
> ConfiguredServices<br>
><br>
> <PZ>Added</PZ><br>
> SystemConfigChangeNumber<br>
> <PZ>Added</PZ><br>
> SystemHealth<br>
> <PZ>Removed until PWG Hardcopy Device Health Assessment Attributes<br>
> completes Formal Vote</PZ><br>
> SystemTotals ****<br>
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> <PZ>Added</PZ>****<br>
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> Some of them are already defined in another PWG standard spec, but
since<br>
> there is no reference in MFD Model spec, I think it's a good idea
to add<br>
> them here.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> -Nancy<br>
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