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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Comments inline below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";color:navy'>Peter Zehler</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy'>Xerox Research Center Webster<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Email: <a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com">Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Voice: (585) 265-8755</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>FAX: (585) 265-7441</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>US Mail: Peter Zehler</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Xerox Corp.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>800 Phillips Rd.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>M/S 128-25E</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Webster NY, 14580-9701</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Zehler, Peter; Ira McDonald<br><b>Cc:</b> mfd@pwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> FaxLogUri *still* missing in FaxInServiceDescription SM schema<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Pete,<br><br>I've been working on the FaxIn spec per August F2F review.<br><br>In section 6.6, I need FaxLogUri, but it's *still* missing in SM v1.147 <br>(it's present only in FaxOut spec and the FaxOutService schema).<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&lt;PZ&gt;Added in v1.149&lt;/PZ&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>So here's my opinion about the equivalent FaxOutServiceDescription<br>service-specific elements for FaxIn:<br><br>Compression[Default/Supported] - No<br>DefaultFaxModem - No<br>DocumentFormat[Default/Supported/DetailsXxx] - No*<br>FaxLogUri - Yes (REQUIRED)<br>MultipleDocumentJobsSupported - Yes (OPTIONAL)<br>MultipleOperation[Timeout/TimeoutXxx] - No<br>ServiceChargeInfoUri - Yes<br>ServiceOrganizations <span style='color:#1F497D'>&#8211;</span> Yes<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&lt;PZ&gt;Everything in v1.149 except MultipleDocumentJobsSupported which is in v 1.150&lt;/PZ&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>*DocumentFormat belongs in FaxInDocumentProcessing[Capabilities],<br>so that documents sent to the DestinationUris get the right format, right?<br>Similar conceptually to ScanService?&nbsp; I think all analagous Scan elements<br>should be available for processing FaxIn documents in order to be able<br>to send reasonably to a variety of destinations.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&lt;PZ&gt;I don&#8217;t quite agree.&nbsp; I think that capabilities and defaults are applicable to the FaxInService.&nbsp; However, I think that the capabilities are used by a FaxInService user to determine the allowed values when creating an entry in AvailableFaxInJobTicket.&nbsp; FaxInJobs are initiated/created by an inbound FAX protocol initiation.&nbsp; A FaxInService user configures what happens when an inbound FAX is received.&nbsp; If none of the configured FaxInMetrics match, then the FaxIn ServiceDefaults would be used.&nbsp; I expect the operations (as of yet undefined) would focus on FaxInService configuration including the setting of job routing and handling (i.e. AvailableFaxInJobTickets.&lt;/PZ&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>NOTE - There's an error in PWG 5108.5 (FaxOut) where FaxLogUri is<br>optional in the schema, according to my reading of the spec.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&lt;PZ&gt;Corrected in v 1.149.&lt;/PZ&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>I think we've made a mistake making the FaxInDocument single-valued<br>in the schema, because we're keeping the text saying that support for<br>multiple document jobs is optional (per our August F2F review).<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&lt;PZ&gt;Corrected in v 1.149.&lt;/PZ&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>I did add the various notes about PSTN FaxIn being inherently single<br>document jobs.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br>Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic" target="_blank"><span style='color:#3333FF'>http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic</span></a><br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc" target="_blank"><span style='color:#6600CC'>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc</span></a><br>mailto:<a href="mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com" target="_blank">blueroofmusic@gmail.com</a><br>Winter&nbsp; 579 Park Place&nbsp; Saline, MI&nbsp; 48176&nbsp; 734-944-0094<br>Summer&nbsp; PO Box 221&nbsp; Grand Marais, MI 49839&nbsp; 906-494-2434<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><br />-- 
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