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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Ira<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>Does a conforming Print Service
accepting a PWG:PJT &nbsp;have to behave accordingly!!!???? (It is not an IPP
printer!)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:blue'>glen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Ira McDonald
[mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 02, 2012
8:54 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen; Ira McDonald<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Michael Sweet; mfd@pwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [MFD] Question on
Resolution Versus Qaulity</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Glen,<br>
<br>
I see the logic of your comments.<br>
<br>
But IPP/2.0 Second Edition *did* specifically resolve this<br>
&quot;quality&quot; versus &quot;resolution&quot; question based on quite a lot<br>
of mailing list and face-to-face discussion.&nbsp; This is stated<br>
in on page 21, section 6.2, item 8 of PWG 5100.12.<br>
<br>
So a conforming IPP Printer has to behave accordingly.<br>
<br>
We can add more discussion in IPP JPS3, if that seems<br>
appropriate, but we really can't reverse the IPP/2.0 SE, <br>
because that would not be backward compatible.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
- Ira<br>
<br clear=all>
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG<br>
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG<br>
IETF Designated Expert - IPP &amp; Printer MIB<br>
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Petrie, Glen &lt;<a
href="mailto:glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com">glen.petrie@eitc.epson.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>Mike,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>Interesting but I still believe my conclusions support both a
simple and sophisticated user-centric model.&nbsp; A simple user-centric model
will always use the &#8220;quality&#8221; setting and, for added &#8220;control&#8221;, will set
&#8220;content type&#8221; to get the desired output.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sophisticated users will
want to control the finer details and, thus, may want a specific
resolution.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>As to &#8220;draft&#8221; operations or any other quality setting
operations:&nbsp; in general, no print vendor is going to use simpler/faster
dithers or color-transform or not perform print row interleaving, if it reduces
the overall printed quality of the output simply because the user set quality
setting to draft/normal/high in a Print Client.&nbsp;&nbsp; There would be
insignificant amount of processing required; no need to support multiple
dither/color transforms routines; and an unnoticeable amount of additional (if
any) overall print time. &nbsp;&nbsp;If a user specifies a resolution versus
quality; then, saving ink was not his/her intent; he/she wants a specific
resolution for his/her specific reason.&nbsp; While bi-directional versus
uni-directional printing are affected by quality settings; print service
internal selection (not user set) would also use content-type (for example;
high-quality text (bi) versus high-quality photo(uni)) which, of course, bi
versus uni, can also be done as a function of resolution and the content-type.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>The constraint is solved by;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The content-type MUST be
     set;&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>

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 <ol start=1 type=a>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
      auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
      style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The default could be &#8220;text
      and graphic&#8221;</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
 </ol>
</ol>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>If user sets resolution; then
     the Print Services uses this resolution along with content-type.&nbsp; The
     Print Service will ignore any quality-setting and set any internal
     processing based on resolution and content-type only. &nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>

<ol start=2 type=1>
 <ol start=1 type=a>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
      auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
      style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>If the resolution set is not
      supported; then return an error.&nbsp; (How this could occur from a print
      client that received printer capability data is unknown but just in-case
      the user is allowed to &#8220;type&#8221; in any resolution they want!) </span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
 </ol>
</ol>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>If user set quality but not
     resolution, then</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>

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 <ol start=1 type=a>
  <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
      auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo5'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
      style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>The Print Service uses
      content-type and quality-setting to determine a resolution and internal
      processing.</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
 </ol>
</ol>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>IMHO, the user must always be in control.&nbsp; Setting resolution
is more specific than setting quality, since quality is qualitative versus
quantitative; thus, if a user sets a resolution; then that what should be done.
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>I think we will have to agree to disagree and simply move on!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>glen</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Michael Sweet [mailto:<a
href="mailto:msweet@apple.com" target="_blank">msweet@apple.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, February 01, 2012
5:00 PM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Petrie, Glen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:mfd@pwg.org"
target="_blank">mfd@pwg.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [MFD] Question on
Resolution Versus Qaulity</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:#888888'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color="#888888" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Feb 1, 2012, at
3:45 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Conceptually there
is no reason a printer could not support a draft mode for multiple resolutions
(and this is in fact the case in CUPS/Mac OS X), so preventing both from being
specified will do a disservice to the user and printer/driver.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>[gwp] So if we have &#8220;draft&#8221; at 75, 150, 300; and the user can
select both &#8220;draft&#8221; and 300; then what is the value of &#8220;draft&#8221; to the Print
Service since the Print Service was told to print at 300 dpi.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&quot;Draft&quot;
might select (for example) bidirectional printing on an inkjet with no
interleaving of dot rows. It could also use a simpler/faster dithering algorithm,
&nbsp;simpler/faster color transform, use less inks (i.e. just CMYK instead of
CMYKcmk), etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>[gwp] Users are more likely to select &#8220;quality&#8221; equals &#8220;draft&#8221; and
&#8220;contentOptimize&#8221; equals &#8220;photo&#8221; and not a dpi (ops: resolution).&nbsp;&nbsp;
If a user &#8216;really understands&#8217; the Print Service performance for differing
dpi&#8217;s (again ops: resolution&#8217;s); then &#8220;quality&#8221; should never win because the
user knows exactly what dpi they want!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Users do not know
how quality and resolution interact, and in the absence of the JPS3 mechanisms
for doing constraint resolution there is no way for the client to know either.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Quality !=
Resolution. &nbsp;They may be related, and there may in fact be constraints
that cause a particular combination to conflict, but they are not mutually exclusive
and express separate intent. &nbsp;The IPP/2.0 recommendation to prefer Quality
over Resolution when there is a conflict is a pragmatic approach to automatic
conflict resolution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>[gwp] Print-Resolution is a function of both Quality AND
Content-Optimize.&nbsp;&nbsp; Any printer today can determine a resolution from
these two values.&nbsp; If a user specifies a resolution then the Print Service
should use the resolution (resolution is always the winner) since the user is
stating they want the specified resolution that gives them a desired quality
for the content!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'></span>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>and if that
resolution is supported by the printer then by all means it should use it! But
if not, the printer should let the client know it can't use that resolution and
&nbsp;use the closest resolution instead...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>[gwp] The conclusion is then</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria;
color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo6'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Specified Resolution wins
     over &#8220;Quality&#8221; &nbsp;- always, since the User specified &#8216;use this
     resolution&#8221;.</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'></span>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The user specified
&quot;use this quality&quot;. One has to win, and IMHO (and based on what we
agreed to and approved in IPP/2.0 SE) Quality wins over Resolution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='text-align:-webkit-auto;word-spacing:0px'>

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 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=blue
     face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Content-Optimize MUST be
     required &#8211; for a printer to properly determine the correct resolution when
     resolution is not specified.</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>That's what
defaults are for...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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     auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><font size=3 color=blue
     face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='color:blue;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
     auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8'><font size=3 color=blue face=Cambria><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Cambria'>Print-Quality&nbsp; is
     [Quality (-Intent) + Content-Optimize ] or [ Resolution] but not both.</span></font><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Again, these
elements are related but not mutually exclusive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=4 color=black face="Andale Mono"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
"Andale Mono";color:black'>_________________________________________________________<br>
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System&nbsp;Engineer, PWG Chair</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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