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Hi Glen,<br><br>Augmenting Pete's excellent reply.<br><br>There is a first-class Subscription object in IPP and the <br>PWG Semantic Model. <br><br>The user/client can subscribe to specific notifications at <br>the time of job creation (which I think you seemed to be <br>
implying?).<br><br>The details are in RFC 3995 "IPP: Event Notifications <br>and Subscriptions". <br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Zehler, Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Peter.Zehler@xerox.com">Peter.Zehler@xerox.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Glen,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m a bit confused by your “print and go” scenario. The user selects the photo(s) to be printed and presses ”print to cloud”. The Print Client issues a “CreatePrintJob”, SendPrintDocument * N, and a “ClosePrintJob”. When the “ClosePrintJob” response is complete, the user can turn off the phone. (By the way, what difference does the behavior of the print service make to a phone that is turned off?)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We already have a collection for “SS&E”. It is called “JobSummary” (PrintJobSummaryType). It is obtained in response to “GetActivePrintJobs” and “GetPrintJobHistory”. If the user wants information on a specific job then the Print Client can use those operations and discard unrequired information. Alternatively the Print Client can issue a “GetPrintJobElements” operation to get the “PrintJobStatus” for the specific job and present the appropriate information to the user.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m not very clear on your last paragraph either. The user can either send the document (“SendPrintDocument”) or a reference to the document (“SendPrintUri”). In the case of the former the document is sent regardless of the Job state. In the case of the latter is an implementation decision when the document is dereferenced and downloaded. Exposure of print content is just as much an issue when the document resides at a referenced location, on the wire, in a cloud “job pool”, at a print proxy, at a print device or as the final printed media resting in an output bin. I don’t see the benefit given the added complexity of the flag. We do have constructs already in place (e.g., HoldPrintJob, job passwords, document encryption, TLS, P2600) to address document privacy/protection/security.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Pete<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org" target="_blank">mfd-bounces@pwg.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mfd-bounces@pwg.org" target="_blank">mfd-bounces@pwg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Petrie, Glen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mfd@pwg.org" target="_blank">mfd@pwg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [MFD] SS&E settings in a PJT<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">All,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[SS&E == State, Status & Error]<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">A scenario for mobile (maybe cloud and other environments) is where a user has wants to print a photo from their smart phone. However, they want to “print and go”. That is, they need to be notified with the print content has been download so they can turn off the phone. So, they need to be able to set and get information back from the Print Service that the print content has been downloaded from their cell phone – even if the job is queued. But, they do not want any other SS&E info reported since the phone will be turned off.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">So, is there or should there be, a collection in the PWG:PJT that allows the User to set what SS&E data to be reported.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
Example: The user wants the SS&E for Job Accepted, Job Queued, Job Started, Doc number Printer, Doc Page Number Printed, Job Ended, Job Ended Cause, Print Errors, etc, etc, etc . . . . . . . . <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Is there or should there be, a “flag” in the PWG:PJT that allows the User to specify that the print content should be download even if the Print Job is queued. In fact, should there be a “flag” that state the print content should only be downloaded until it absolutely needed (to minimize the exposure of the print content).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Glen<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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