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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Ira, thanks for the clarifications.
I agree hr MIB is out of scope for this exercise of prioritizing Printer
MIB Groups... I just wanted to make sure we weren't missing these fundamental
properties. Sounds like we've already captured most of them. Only difficulty
I feel we are left with is prtGeneral. I understand there are defaults
that depend normatively on other subunits but there are also independent
properties which I believe are utmost essential (eg... many of us felt
printer s/n was a glaring omission from Printer MIB v1). Not sure how to
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Chairman - ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
303-924-5337<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Hi Harry,<br>
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(1) Printer MIB v2 additions<br>
- in the great spreadsheet of properties, we all gave<br>
high rankings to _some_ of these (i.e., ServicePerson)<br>
(2) prtGeneral last<br>
- because the default pointers will depend normatively<br>
(with ModelCorrespondence clauses which MUST NOT be<br>
black holes to pass CIM Core review) on the newly<br>
created Subunit classes that define 'Xxx.Id' (e.g.,<br>
prtInputIndex).<br>
- if we submit it earlier, they'll just reject it<br>
(3) hrPrinterDetectedErrorState<br>
- already in CIM_Printer.DetectedErrorState<br>
- in CIM Refresh Phase 1, we added the new enum values<br>
(4) hrDeviceStatus<br>
- already in CIM_LogicalDevice.Availability<br>
- which is the parent class of CIM_Printer<br>
(5) hrPrinterStatus<br>
- already in CIM_Printer.PrinterStatus<br>
(we added the MappingStrings in CIM Refresh Phase
1)<br>
(6) hrDeviceID <br>
- not in CIM Model at all - completely out-of-scope<br>
(7) sysDescr<br>
- not in CIM Model at all - completely out-of-scope<br>
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Cheers,<br>
- Ira<br>
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Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
phone: +1-906-494-2434<br>
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com <br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl@us.ibm.com]<br>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:31 PM<br>
To: McDonald, Ira<br>
Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org<br>
Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes
- due Wed 11 April<br>
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In doing the exercise... some thoughts... <br>
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1. I gave greater weight to stuff we added in Printer MIB v2 because if
it wasn't so important... why'd we add it? <br>
2. I see a lot of people put prtGeneral last because it "depends on
all other classes". But there are some very useful (independent) attributes
in prtGeneral (like Name, S/N, Operator/ServicePerson etc.) <br>
3. Where does hrPrinterDetectedErrorState fall in all of this? Not part
of Printer MIB but... as you all know... one of my all time favorites ;-)
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- hrDeviceStatus, hrPrinterStatus, hrDeviceID and sysDescr... all
fundamental (and so were referenced in the Printer MIB), <br>
<br>
My ordering of the list... <br>
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(0) CIM_Printer - prtGeneralTable (contains valuable independent
elements: example S/N) <br>
(1) CIM_PrintAlertLog - prtAlertTable <br>
(2) CIM_PrintAlertRecord - prtAlertEntry <br>
I agree with Rick… these are inseparable <br>
(3) CIM_PrintInputTray - prtInputTable - done - not submitted to
DMTF <br>
(4) CIM_PrintOutputTray - prtOutputTable - done - in progress at
DMTF <br>
(5) CIM_PrintDeviceCover – prtCoverTable <br>
(6) CIM_PrintMarker - prtMarkerTable - done - not submitted to DMTF
<br>
(7) CIM_PrintSupply - prtMarkerSuppliesTable <br>
(8) CIM_PrintConsoleDisplayBuffer – prtConsoleDisplayBufferTable
<br>
(9) CIM_PrintColorant - prtMarkerColorantTable <br>
(10) CIM_PrintConsoleLight – prtConsoleLightTable <br>
(11) CIM_PrintMediaPath - prtMediaPathTable <br>
(12) CIM_PrintInterpreter - prtInterpreterTable <br>
(13) CIM_PrintChannel - prtChannelTable - done - not submitted to DMTF
<br>
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Harry Lewis <br>
IBM STSM<br>
Intellectual Property, Standards and Licensing<br>
Chairman - ISTO Printer Working Group<br>
303-924-5337<br>
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"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> <br>
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SubjectPWG-ANNOUNCE> ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes - due
Wed 11 April<br>
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Hi,
Thursday (5 April 2007)<br>
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*** Action: Send your ordered list of CIM MOF classes<br>
*** Due Date: End-of-day Wednesday 11 April 2007<br>
<br>
*** To: All PWG members<br>
*** Reply To: wims@pwg.org<br>
*** Note: Do NOT reply to pwg-announce@pwg.org<br>
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Background: As a result of the slow CIM Core WG process, we urgently<br>
need to reach concensus on the ORDER in which we will model the tables<br>
from the Printer MIB (RFC 1759/3805) into CIM MOF classes, as described<br>
in Rick Landau's document posted in the directory:<br>
<br>
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim<br>
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in the file:<br>
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td_PrintClassGroupings_v09_20070208.pdf<br>
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Below is my own ordered list of CIM MOF classes:<br>
<br>
(0) CIM_PrintOutputTray - prtOutputTable - done - in progress at
DMTF<br>
<br>
(1) CIM_PrintInputTray - prtInputTable - done - not submitted to
DMTF<br>
(2) CIM_PrintMarker - prtMarkerTable - done - not submitted to DMTF<br>
(3) CIM_PrintChannel - prtChannelTable - done - not submitted to
DMTF<br>
<br>
(4) CIM_PrintSupply - prtMarkerSuppliesTable<br>
(5) CIM_PrintDeviceCover - prtCoverTable<br>
(6) CIM_PrintAlertLog - prtAlertTable<br>
(7) CIM_PrintAlertRecord - prtAlertEntry<br>
<br>
(8) CIM_PrintMediaPath - prtMediaPathTable<br>
(9) CIM_PrintInterpreter - prtInterpreterTable<br>
<br>
(10) CIM_PrintColorant - prtMarkerColorantTable<br>
(11) CIM_PrintConsoleLight - prtConsoleLightTable<br>
(12) CIM_PrintConsoleDisplayBuffer - prtConsoleDisplayBufferTable<br>
<br>
(13) CIM_Printer - prtGeneralTable - last - depends on all other classes<br>
<br>
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At the WIMS-CIM telecon on Thursday 12 April we will determine concensus<br>
on the ordered list - Rick Landau and I will follow this concensus.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
- Ira<br>
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<br>
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc<br>
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839<br>
phone: +1-906-494-2434<br>
email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com<br>
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