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Hi Mike,<br><br>Actually, the EMAN Monitoring MIB now has a table<br>(similar to ours) that defines the max power (but not<br>other characteristics) of each state - so PWG vendor <br>states could be listed.<br><br>But it's tail wagging dog for MFDs to force new logic<br>
in power management apps for the whole computer<br>industry. That's why I think that we should not allow<br>the reporting of vendor extension states in EMAN.<br><br>In DMTF CIM there is NOT a way to insert these<br>vendor extension states (or their characteristics), so<br>
the EMAN mapping would be of limited utility.<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG<br>Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Michael Sweet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msweet@apple.com">msweet@apple.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Ira,<div><br></div><div>I agree that we should stick with the existing DMTF power states - without some way to describe the vendor states, it would be impossible to have a generic client monitor things properly...</div>
<div><br><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div>On Aug 11, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Ira McDonald wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hi,<br><br>
ACTION - All - Read and comment on this power states issue for EMAN.<br>
<br>The latest draft of the IETF EMAN Energy Monitoring MIB (monitor-only<br>subset of EMAN model) includes the following issue:<br><br> "OPEN ISSUE 12: Consideration of IEEE-ISTO PWG in the IANA list <br> of Power State Set ? PWG Imaging Systems Power Management MIB <br>
reference."<br><br>And Bruce Nordman (EMAN co-chair) raised the question of registering the<br>PWG power states with IANA for EMAN last week at the PWG meeting <br>- I waffled in my reply.<br><br>On reflection, I propose that the PWG does NOT register their own power<br>
states (adding significant complexity to the NMS systems that will already<br>support the other three standard power state sets).<br><br>Instead, best practice would be for PWG Power MIB enabled devices to<br>*fold* vendor extension states into their base DMTF power states (already<br>
in EMAN) for more coherent power monitoring and power management<br>across the enterprise. This folding would have to occur anyway for a DMTF<br>CIM mapping of the PWG Power Model, so we'd be consistent for "outside"<br>
standards.<br><br>Comments?<br><br>Cheers,<br>- Ira<br><br>PS - I'd like to reply on the IETF EMAN mailing list within the next two weeks<br>on this issue - please send your opinions.<br><br><br clear="all">Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)<br>
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