IPP> ADM - IETF IPP WG Last Call for "Internet Printing Proto col (IPP) : The 'ippget' Event Notifications Delivery Method"

IPP> ADM - IETF IPP WG Last Call for "Internet Printing Proto col (IPP) : The 'ippget' Event Notifications Delivery Method"

IPP> ADM - IETF IPP WG Last Call for "Internet Printing Proto col (IPP) : The 'ippget' Event Notifications Delivery Method"

McDonald, Ira imcdonald at sharplabs.com
Fri Sep 22 15:21:34 EDT 2000

Hi Carl-Uno,

I'm in favor of the 'ippget' proposal but...

This is unacceptable IETF working group process.

Two weeks ago you declared both 'ippget' and 'snmpnotify'
officially dead as IPP work items.

Last week at the PWG meeting, a revised 'ippget' was
discussed and favored by many for use in IPP Fax (aka

In order to ENTER an IETF WG 'last call' the email
record of the WG MUST show apparent 'rough concensus'.
That's impossible - this current (significantly changed)
proposal is new this week as an Internet-Draft.

Please don't break the process without reason.  There
will certainly be very few implementations of 'ippget'
at the IPP Bakeoff in a few weeks - the other two 
methods WILL be tested for interoperability at the
IPP Bakeoff - when independent implementations of
'ippget' have had at least some testing is plenty
soon enough to publish 'ippget' as a Proposed Std RFC.

- Ira McDonald

-----Original Message-----
From: Manros, Carl-Uno B [mailto:cmanros at cp10.es.xerox.com]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:30 AM
Cc: Don Fullman
Subject: IPP> ADM - IETF IPP WG Last Call for "Internet Printing
Protocol (IPP) : The 'ippget' Event Notifications Delivery Method"


Although I haven't got a lot of feedback on my previous note about this 
document, I would like to get the IPP WG Last Call started on the
'ippget' Notification Delivery Method.

The latest version of this document has been forwarded to the Internet 
Draft directory.

Please note that this document was derived in part from earlier drafts 
on the 'ipp-get' and 'ipp-poll' methods.

It is proposed to publish this as a Proposed Standard RFC, and it is 
proposed to be a RECOMMENDED delivery method, the same level as our 
previous two notification delivery methods.


The Last Call notice follows:

This is a formal request for final comments within the IETF IPP
working group for one document. The document is:

"Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): The 'ippget' Event Notifications 
Delivery Method"

which is being proposed for forwarding on to the IESG for consideration as 
Standards Track document to complement the previous suite of IPP/1.0 and 
IPP/1.1 documents. This is a working group product, which has been
thoroughly discussed since early 1999.

Note that the "The 'ippget' Event Notifications Delivery Method" document 
is only one of several possible notification delivery documents on which 
the IPP WG has been working.

The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of "speak now or
forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental objections which have
not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors which need

Last Calls are for a minimum of 2 weeks. We will start the Last Call period
today Friday September 22, 2000 and the period for working group comments
will close on October 9, 2000 (US Pacific time reference).

The document is:

	Title		: Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): The 'ippget'
                          Notifications Delivery Method
	Author(s)	: R. Herriot, C. Kugler, H. Lewis
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-00.txt
	Pages		: 23
	Date		: 19-Sep-00
The notification extension document [ipp-ntfy] defines operations that a
client can perform in order to create Subscription Objects in a Printer
and carry out other operations on them. A Subscription Object represents
a Subscription abstraction. The Subscription Object specifies that when
one of the specified Events occurs, the Printer sends an asynchronous
Event Notification to the specified Notification Recipient via the
specified Delivery Method (i.e., protocol).

The notification extension document [ipp-ntfy] specifies that each
Delivery Method is defined in another document. This document is one
such document, and it specifies the 'ippget' delivery method.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username
"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in,
type "cd internet-drafts" and then
	"get draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-00.txt".

A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in
or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt

Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail.

Send a message to:
	mailserv at ietf.org.
In the body type:
	"FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipp-notify-get-00.txt".


Carl-Uno Manros
Chair of IETF IPP WG

Principal Engineer - Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
Email: manros at cp10.es.xerox.com 

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