IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method by July 7

IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method by July 7

IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method by July 7

kugler at us.ibm.com kugler at us.ibm.com
Fri Jun 30 12:30:14 EDT 2000



My opinions:

>  a) over email
Sucks, because it's too slow, requires too much configuration, and is
subject to abuse.

>  b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
Sucks, because it requires either long-lasting connections or some form of
polling, and a client that isn't actively looking for notifications will
never see them.

>  c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
direction)
Sucks, because it can't notify a recipient behind a firewall (from the
Printer).

>  d) over SNMP
Sucks, because it can't notify a recipient behind a firewall (from the
Printer).

It's possible to create solutions that don't suck by combining the methods.
For example, in a QUALDOCS scenario, the sender could monitor the job
progress using in-band IPP notifications, the recipient could be notified
by email, and the printer admin could keep an eye on things with INDP or
SNMP.  Since none of these methods can stand alone, I allocate my weights
to 0,0,0,0.

I think our best hope for a single, usable Internet notification delivery
method might be IMPP (http://www.imppwg.org) , if that ever gets
standardized.

     -Carl


--- In ipp at egroups.com, "Manros, Carl-Uno B" <cmanros at c...> wrote:
> All,
>
> The IETF does not do voting, but we can ask people to allocate weights to
> their favorite method. From the result I hope to get a picture of whether
we
> have a clear "rough consensus" favorite, or if we should just avoid
trying
> to make any particular notification delivery method the "required" or
> "mandated" one.
>
> So let the weightings begin!
>
> Here are the rules:
>
> 1) We have 4 candidate notification delivery methods, briefly described
as:
>
>  a) over email
>  b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
>  c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
direction)
>  d) over SNMP
>
> 2) You have a total of maximum 4 weight points to allocate between the 4
> methods above.
>
>  a) You can put all your 4 points on one favorite and leave the other
three
> with 0 each. (the 'all eggs in one basket' option)
>  b) If you don't really mind which method, you can give 1 point to each
of
> the methods. (the 'chicken' option)
>  c) You can allocate your 4 points somewhere between the two extreme
cases
> above. (the 'diplomatic' options)
>  d) If you don't want to make ANY of the methods "required" or
"mandated",
> put a 0 for ALL four methods! (the 'don't even try it' option)
>
> If you still haven't understood the rules, please read the above text 3
more
> times, before you make a fool of yourself....., or of me for not being
clear
> enough ;-{
>
> So please collect your wits and send your weights to the IPP DL no later
> than next Friday July 7!
>
> Have fun.... and remember that if you do not participate you cannot win!
>
> Carl-Uno
>
> Carl-Uno Manros
> Principal Engineer - Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
> 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
> Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
> Email: manros at c...





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