IPP> notification methods

IPP> notification methods

IPP> notification methods

Zehler, Peter Peter.Zehler at usa.xerox.com
Fri Aug 11 12:01:30 EDT 2000


I don't know who your ISP is but mine has no control over a server running
on my host.  They do control the length of my IP lease.  In my case the
lease lasts hours.  Certainly enough time for a notification.  (Not enough
time to host a business...they charge for that.)

I can have a fixed IP address and I can have multiple IP addresses if I so
desire.  The use of INDP assumes programmatic interactions in near real
time.  If I build an application that relies on this it may well impose
requirements on system/network configurations as well as influence the
components I buy.

I see a real need for programmatic as well as end user notification.  We
should be specifying and building enabling technologies.  Our role should be
enable policy not to enforce it.


				Peter Zehler
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-----Original Message-----
From: kugler at us.ibm.com [mailto:kugler at us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:25 PM
To: jkm at underscore.com
Cc: ipp at pwg.org
Subject: Re: IPP> notification methods

It's equally impractical in the road warrior scenario.  Most ISPs won't let
you run a server unless you pay them for the privilege.

SOHO is another problem.  Windows Connection Sharing and other network
address translation schemes are often used so that multiple hosts on a LAN
can all reach the Internet through a single IP address allocated by the
ISP.  Of course, ISPs will be happy to sell you more addresses, for a
monthly fee...

So, it's impractical for enterprise, SOHO, and dial-up.  What does that
leave?  Possibly some university networks (and Lexmark ;-) );  I can't
think of much else.


Jay Martin <jkm at underscore.com> on 08/04/2000 02:53:08 PM

Please respond to jkm at underscore.com

To:   Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM at IBMUS
cc:   ipp at pwg.org
Subject:  Re: IPP> notification methods


Ah, now you've caught my attention...  ;-)

> Me and 99% of other end users in the real world.  INDP over the Internet
> not impossible, just impractical.

We must assume your term "end users in the real world" refers to
enterprise environments, right?

That is, if the "real world" implies a usage scenario describing a
"Road Warrior sitting in her hotel room wanting to print a document
at a local copy shop", then in your opinion can INDP satisfy those
99% of "real world" users?  Or is it equally impractical as in the
enterprise environment?


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