IPP> notification methods

IPP> notification methods

IPP> notification methods

Jay Martin jkm at underscore.com
Fri Aug 11 12:08:25 EDT 2000


Peter,

Thanks so much for pointing this out to everyone.  I've known this
all along, but was afraid to respond with this kind of explanation
since my fire-resistant "flame suit" is currently at the cleaners.  ;-)

	...jay


"Zehler, Peter" wrote:
> 
> Carl,
> 
> I don't know who your ISP is but mine has no control over a server running
> on my host.  They do control the length of my IP lease.  In my case the
> lease lasts hours.  Certainly enough time for a notification.  (Not enough
> time to host a business...they charge for that.)
> 
> I can have a fixed IP address and I can have multiple IP addresses if I so
> desire.  The use of INDP assumes programmatic interactions in near real
> time.  If I build an application that relies on this it may well impose
> requirements on system/network configurations as well as influence the
> components I buy.
> 
> I see a real need for programmatic as well as end user notification.  We
> should be specifying and building enabling technologies.  Our role should be
> enable policy not to enforce it.
> 
> Pete
> 
>                                 Peter Zehler
>                                 XEROX
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kugler at us.ibm.com [mailto:kugler at us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:25 PM
> To: jkm at underscore.com
> Cc: ipp at pwg.org
> Subject: Re: IPP> notification methods
> 
> It's equally impractical in the road warrior scenario.  Most ISPs won't let
> you run a server unless you pay them for the privilege.
> 
> SOHO is another problem.  Windows Connection Sharing and other network
> address translation schemes are often used so that multiple hosts on a LAN
> can all reach the Internet through a single IP address allocated by the
> ISP.  Of course, ISPs will be happy to sell you more addresses, for a
> monthly fee...
> 
> So, it's impractical for enterprise, SOHO, and dial-up.  What does that
> leave?  Possibly some university networks (and Lexmark ;-) );  I can't
> think of much else.
> 
>      -Carl
> 
> Jay Martin <jkm at underscore.com> on 08/04/2000 02:53:08 PM
> 
> Please respond to jkm at underscore.com
> 
> To:   Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM at IBMUS
> cc:   ipp at pwg.org
> Subject:  Re: IPP> notification methods
> 
> Carl,
> 
> Ah, now you've caught my attention...  ;-)
> 
> > Me and 99% of other end users in the real world.  INDP over the Internet
> is
> > not impossible, just impractical.
> 
> We must assume your term "end users in the real world" refers to
> enterprise environments, right?
> 
> That is, if the "real world" implies a usage scenario describing a
> "Road Warrior sitting in her hotel room wanting to print a document
> at a local copy shop", then in your opinion can INDP satisfy those
> 99% of "real world" users?  Or is it equally impractical as in the
> enterprise environment?
> 
>      ...jay



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