Thanks so much for pointing this out to everyone. I've known this
all along, but was afraid to respond with this kind of explanation
since my fire-resistant "flame suit" is currently at the cleaners. ;-)
"Zehler, Peter" wrote:
>> I don't know who your ISP is but mine has no control over a server running
> on my host. They do control the length of my IP lease. In my case the
> lease lasts hours. Certainly enough time for a notification. (Not enough
> time to host a business...they charge for that.)
>> I can have a fixed IP address and I can have multiple IP addresses if I so
> desire. The use of INDP assumes programmatic interactions in near real
> time. If I build an application that relies on this it may well impose
> requirements on system/network configurations as well as influence the
> components I buy.
>> I see a real need for programmatic as well as end user notification. We
> should be specifying and building enabling technologies. Our role should be
> enable policy not to enforce it.
>> Peter Zehler
> Xerox Architecture Center
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>> -----Original Message-----
> From: kugler at us.ibm.com [mailto:kugler at us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:25 PM
> To: jkm at underscore.com> Cc: ipp at pwg.org> Subject: Re: IPP> notification methods
>> It's equally impractical in the road warrior scenario. Most ISPs won't let
> you run a server unless you pay them for the privilege.
>> SOHO is another problem. Windows Connection Sharing and other network
> address translation schemes are often used so that multiple hosts on a LAN
> can all reach the Internet through a single IP address allocated by the
> ISP. Of course, ISPs will be happy to sell you more addresses, for a
> monthly fee...
>> So, it's impractical for enterprise, SOHO, and dial-up. What does that
> leave? Possibly some university networks (and Lexmark ;-) ); I can't
> think of much else.
>> Jay Martin <jkm at underscore.com> on 08/04/2000 02:53:08 PM
>> Please respond to jkm at underscore.com>> To: Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM at IBMUS> cc: ipp at pwg.org> Subject: Re: IPP> notification methods
>> Ah, now you've caught my attention... ;-)
>> > Me and 99% of other end users in the real world. INDP over the Internet
> > not impossible, just impractical.
>> We must assume your term "end users in the real world" refers to
> enterprise environments, right?
>> That is, if the "real world" implies a usage scenario describing a
> "Road Warrior sitting in her hotel room wanting to print a document
> at a local copy shop", then in your opinion can INDP satisfy those
> 99% of "real world" users? Or is it equally impractical as in the
> enterprise environment?