[IPP] "print-color-mode" or "imaging-color-mode"?

[IPP] "print-color-mode" or "imaging-color-mode"?

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Tue Apr 19 20:16:41 UTC 2011


All,

I've done some research (mainly going back through the MFD Scan and Model documents) and both define the ColorEntry job ticket element to control the corollary of print-color-mode for scanning. So, for purposes of IPP Scan I would opt to use color-entry and the corresponding mapped keywords from the MFD Scan/Model specs.

In general I think we can stick with the existing names. If something new applies to multiple services and doesn't have a logical prefix of its own, add "imaging-" to the front. If something is service-specific, put the service name on the front..

All that said, here is another wrinkle: copy, which has input and output job ticket elements...  I'm thinking we just use collections, but we have time to discuss the actual binding...

On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Mitchell, Andrew (Solutions Architect) wrote:

> OK, my 2¢.
> 
> We need to decide if naming a NEW attribute that applies to more then just print with the print- prefix makes sense. A agree that renaming existing attributes does not make sense, and using the print- attributes in scan (and fax) rather then renaming them is logical. But if we are going to say attributes that are originally defined in Scan (or Fax) start with imaging- while if they first show up in IPP Everywhere (or some other doc like JPS3) we name them print- that doesn't seam quite right. My preference would be either:
> 
> 
> 1.  Call everything that is not scan (or fax) specific print-, no matter where it is first defined. For scan or fax specific, call them scan- and fax-.
> 2.  Start using the imaging- prefix everywhere that the term is NOT print specific.
> 
> We are going to expand the model which is heavily rooted in print to other services, I'd just like to have a consistent naming convention for how we move forward. 1 seems more confusing to me since it means keeping the print- name moving forward, and we'll have to maintain the table as to what is print specific and what isn't, but 1 also seems more true to the roots of IPP. I however personally vote for 2 since it clearly implies our broader scope of the protocol moving forward.
> 
> As for just dropping the print- prefix, while it works for color-mode, I think we need to take a harder look to make sure it makes sense everywhere. Note that I view this as simply a different way of naming option 2. If we pick option 2 we need to then pick the naming convention.
> 
> OK, so that was a bit more the 2¢ worth.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> From: Tom Hastings <tom.hastings at verizon.net<mailto:tom.hastings at verizon.net>>
> Reply-To: "tom.hastings at alum.mit.edu<mailto:tom.hastings at alum.mit.edu>" <tom.hastings at alum.mit.edu<mailto:tom.hastings at alum.mit.edu>>
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:45:45 +0000
> To: 'Ira McDonald' <blueroofmusic at gmail.com<mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com>>, 'Michael Sweet' <msweet at apple.com<mailto:msweet at apple.com>>
> Cc: "ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>" <ipp at pwg.org<mailto:ipp at pwg.org>>
> Subject: RE: [IPP] "print-color-mode" or "imaging-color-mode"?
> 
> I agree with Ira.  On the other hand, one other alternative for the name would just to drop the "print-" prefix and call it "color-mode".
> 
> Tom
> 
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> Subject: Re: [IPP] "print-color-mode" or "imaging-color-mode"?
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> No - let's keep the name "print-color-mode" to cohere with the
> zillion other print-xxx or printer-xxx attributes.
> 
> In the new IPP Scanner and Fax objects lets just globally apply
> most/many existing IPP Printer attributes in big table(s) with
> a rationale for why some attributes are not applicable to the
> other multifunction objects.
> 
> Unless almost all Printer attributes *are* applicable, which I begin
> to suspect is the case (and have a short table of the exceptions).
> 
> I think we should reserve use of he "imaging-" prefix for only new
> attributes defined first for Scanner, Fax, etc. objects for IPP
> Everywhere Second Edition.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com<mailto:msweet at apple.com>> wrote:
> All,
> 
> If we consider scanning and printing of forms, the "bi-level" (threshold) mode makes sense for both. Do we want to rename "print-color-mode" to "imaging-color-mode" in anticipation of using is for other MFD services in IPP?
> 
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