[IPP] media-type names and cotton?

[IPP] media-type names and cotton?

Zehler, Peter Peter.Zehler at xerox.com
Tue Jun 19 12:39:37 UTC 2012


Xerox's request from the Face to Face was to add a registered media-type
name for cotton and I'd supply the details at a later time.  Below are
the semantic definitions for archival, bond and  cotton media-type
values we are proposing.  The media weight (i.e. gsm range) can be
ignored since the PWG does not include it in "media-type" definitions.
I included it because it was available to me from production printing.

 

Like other media-types (e.g.,  'stationery', 'cardstock') the three
values below can have suffixes (e.g., '-heavyweight', '-lightweight',
'pre-printed').  This does not beak interoperability.  Specifying
'stationery' or 'cotton' as a base type means that the base type is
primary.  Matching rules that simply strip the suffix continue to work
as they have.  For example a client that supplies a media-type of
'stationery-cotton' would get 'stationery'. This scenario would have to
assume the Client has not examined the supported values of the printer
since a mismatch is implied.

1)      If the printer supported the 'stationery-cotton' value, the
suffix would not be stripped and the requested media-type would be used.

2)      If the printer does not support the 'stationery-cotton' value
and 'stationery' is supported', the media-type 'stationery' is used
since the client requested that as its root (i.e., base) media-type.

If the client wanted 'cotton' media, the client would either have to 

1)      examine the supported values for 

a.       a non-standard '-cotton' extension to some existing top
media-type value

b.      a newly registered/vendor extension top value of 'cotton' 

2)      Shoot blind and hope.

Adding the new top media-type values would enhance interoperability in
the future since stationery, bond, cardstock and cotton would be
available allowing clients to more accurately represent their intent
(e.g., 'cotton-heavyweight', 'stationery-inkjet', 'cardstock-glossy')

 

New media-type values to register:

'archival' - A tough, acid-free paper made with an alkaline buffer.
Extraneous materials (such as sugars, starches and gums) in the pulp
that can cause discoloring and deterioration, are carefully removed.
Physical strength for the paper is ensured by using a long, high quality
fibers such as cotton or flax that enables it to be usable for long
periods. (gsm range 106-169)

'bond' - A better quality grade of paper that is stronger and more
durable than 'stationary' (gsm range 81-130)

'cotton' - A rag pulp based paper which is made up of cotton fibers (gsm
range 75-90)

 

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler at Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701 

 

From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of
Michael Sweet
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:39 AM
To: ptykodi at tykodi.com
Cc: ipp at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

 

Paul,

 

On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Paul Tykodi <ptykodi at tykodi.com> wrote:

	Hi Mike,

	 

	I have been meaning to send in a question about how we should
represent printed electronics. To some degree, the technology creates
the same semantic issues as fabric but it also brings color of ink when
current is applied into the semantics as well.

 

I think new technologies such as these need more discussion and
background than simply adding some names to MSN2.  Certainly we could
register new marker supply types for electroluminescent ink, metallic
(conductive) ink, etc, but what about the substrate?

 

There are similar issues for 3D (layered) printing technologies - how
might we define a model, format, etc. for that?

 

 





 

See: http://www.printedelectroniccover.com/
<http://www.printedelectroniccover.com/> 

 

Best Regards,

 

/Paul

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[mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org <mailto:bounces at pwg.org> ] On Behalf Of
Michael Sweet
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:50 PM
To: William A Wagner
Cc: ipp at pwg.org <mailto:ipp at pwg.org> 
Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

 

Bill,

 

I did some quick searches and found the obligatory Wikipedia article:

 

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_paper
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_paper> 

 

This page would seem to indicate that the more general term is now just
"cotton paper" or "cotton bond paper" since rags/scrap fabric are only
one source of the fibers.

 

So my proposed addition is "stationery-cotton".

 

........

 

A search for printable fabrics yielded some available inkjet products:

 

 
http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Printable-Fabric-Printers-03384/dp/B0000C0CJ
Z
<http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Printable-Fabric-Printers-03384/dp/B0000C0C
JZ> 

 
http://www.lexjet.com/p-3009-Photo-Tex-PSA-Fabric-Aqueous-Printers.aspx
<http://www.lexjet.com/p-3009-Photo-Tex-PSA-Fabric-Aqueous-Printers.aspx
> 

 
http://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=CatalogPage&pageid=14515
<http://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=CatalogPage&pageid=14515> 

 

I see a variety of sheet and roll media, with and without adhesive
backing (some are iron-on, some are room temperature adhesives). How
about the following additional type names:

 

            fabric                                       Generic
printable fabric (sheets or rolls)

            fabric-heat-adhesive                Printable fabric with a
heat-activated adhesive backing

            fabric-self-adhesive                 Printable fabric with a
self-adhesive backing (no heat required)

            fabric-fine
Printable fabric with a thread count of 200 or more

            fabric-coarse                            Printable fabric
with a thread count less then 100

 

 

On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:23 PM, William A Wagner wrote:






Mike,

I suggest that the use of "fabric" as a top-level media type is
reasonable but as a qualifier for stationary is not, because the word
refers to the product of a  weaving or felting process, not the type of
fiber used.  If a general qualifier is needed, the common term is rag
(at least it used to be); e.g., rag-content paper But I recall the
specific request was for "cotton" and cotton is the fiber normally used
in rag paper.

Further, whereas Cotton paper is made from cotton fibers, my understand
is that the term Linen paper  commonly refers to wood pulp or cotton
paper finished to look/have the texture of linen, so the use of cotton
and linen are not parallel in this context.

Thanks,

Bill Wagner

 

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[mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] <mailto:[mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org]>  On
Behalf Of Michael Sweet
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: ipp at pwg.org <mailto:ipp at pwg.org> 
Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

 

Glen,

 

"stationery" is just plain sheets of paper. There are qualified versions
of stationery as well, e.g., "stationery-letterhead", so this would just
be another form of that - think special paper used for cover letters or
resumes that otherwise behaves and is used like plain paper.

 

Technically we could use "fabric" as a top-level media type with
qualified versions for different fabrics and finishes, e.g.:

 

            fabric

            fabric-cotton

            fabric-glossy

            fabric-high-gloss

            fabric-inkjet

            fabric-linen

            fabric-matte

            fabric-semi-gloss

            fabric-tweed

            fabric-waterproof

 

however I would consider those types to be specific to fabric printing,
e.g. curtains, clothing, etc., and not to sheets of specialized paper.

 

 

On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:

	Mike

	 

	Maybe I wrong but I thought stationery was just another word for
"plain"; so this new name means "plain-cotton".   Is there anything
wrong with just cotton and linen?

	 

	Glen

	 

	 

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[mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org <mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org> ] On Behalf Of
Michael Sweet
	Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:22 PM
	To: Peter Zehler
	Cc: <ipp at pwg.org <mailto:ipp at pwg.org> >
	Subject: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

	 

	Pete/All,

	 

	Do I just need to add "stationery-cotton" to the media type name
list in MSN2?

	 

	Do we want this generalized (stationery-fabric?) or list other
materials, e.g., linen?

	 

	
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	Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

	 

	
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