Ira,
Yes let's discuss the policy on Monday. But don't hold back on sending the registrations...
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> On Aug 23, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Smith,
>> Both of these new values for "output-bin" are included in the latest
> IANA registrations file that Mike sent me on Friday.
>> Mike - I assume we should talk about IPP deprecation policy on
> Monday? Should I wait to send this latest IANA registrations file
> to Amanda until after our discussion at Monday's IPP meeting?
>> Cheers,
> - Ira
>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
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>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>>> Where are we with the IANA registrations for these keywords?
>>>> Smith
>>>>>>>>> On 2014-07-15, at 1:06 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I agree. All of this proposal looks right (with Smith's clarifications).
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> - Ira
>>>>>>>>> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>>> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>>> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>>> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>>> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>>> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>>> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>>>> Smith,
>>>>>>>> True about output-bin-actual being optional, so I agree with the proposed tweaks.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Hi Mike,
>>>> >
>>>> > A few tweaks:
>>>> >
>>>> > 'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.
>>>> >
>>>> > 'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the “output-bin-actual” Job Description attribute if that attribute is supported by the Printer.
>>>> >
>>>> > Since the “xxx-actual” attributes are only required by IPP/2.2 as per 5100.12, it is at least possible that a printer has implemented output bins but hasn’t implemented “xxx-actual” attribute support.
>>>> >
>>>> > Smith
>>>> >
>>>> > /**
>>>> > Smith Kennedy
>>>> > ATB Wireless Architect - PPS
>>>> > Hewlett-Packard Co.
>>>> > */
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2014-07-14, at 3:11 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> All,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We discussed the proposed values for the "output-bin" attribute at today's IPP concall and have some minor changes to the definitions along with a larger clarification for the "printer-output-tray" attribute.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> However, one of the conclusions may need to change since after further research it appears that PWG 5100.8 did indeed define the "output-bin-actual" attribute as "1setOf (type2 keyword | name(MAX)))".
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thus, I would like to update the definition of the "output-bin" values to be as follows:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 'collator'; Each copy is placed in an empty output tray. If all trays are full, the Printer cycles through each of the trays in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output trays MUST reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 'job-separator'; All of the output for the Job is placed in an empty output tray. If no trays are empty, the Printer chooses an output tray in an implementation-defined manner. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That would also imply that the 'auto' value should assign the chosen tray as well:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 'auto'; All of the output for the Job is sent to an implementation-defined output tray based on the Job Template and Document Template attributes. The chosen output tray MUST be reported in the "output-bin-actual" Job Description attribute.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Since the "printer-output-tray" attribute is linked to the "output-bin-supported" attribute, we discussed how to report logical trays such as 'auto', 'collator', and 'job-separator'. We decided the following:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1. Logical trays are provided by the service, so while they will be listed in the "printer-output-tray" attribute they will NOT be listed in the Printer MIB prtOutputTray table.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2. Logical trays are reported in "printer-output-tray" using a 'type' value of 'other' (1). The values of the other fields are calculated in an implementation-defined behavior (roll-up status, etc.)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 3. The same behavior should be applied to "printer-input-tray" for the "media-source" value of 'auto'.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Comments?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _________________________________________________________
>>>> >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>>>> >>
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