[IPP] RFC: "printer-terms-of-use-uri" attribute for IPP INFRA?

[IPP] RFC: "printer-terms-of-use-uri" attribute for IPP INFRA?

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Thu Dec 18 21:50:33 UTC 2014


Hi Smith,

It's not advice to the IPP Client, but advice to the human user, just like
"job-charge-info" in PWG 5100.16.  No enforceable legal implications.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434


On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless Architect) <
smith.kennedy at hp.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Can you imagine any need for the Client to “prove” to the Printer or any
> other entity that the user has actually seen the offered terms of use
> content and has accepted it?  Or is that burden just on the Client and the
> Client’s implementation to “do the right thing”?  Not trying to add
> needless complexity and I’m no lawyer but this seems somewhat flimsy.
>
> Smith
>
> /**
>     Smith Kennedy
>     Wireless Architect - Client Software - IPG-PPS
>     Hewlett-Packard Co.
> */
>
>
>
> On 2014-12-18, at 1:14 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Then I'm a happy camper - thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ira,
>>
>> Absolutely, but it definitely applies to IPP INFRA and avoids an extra
>> spec if we add it there... :)
>>
>> We can still recommend it in the IPP/2.0 update.
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > I like this new attribute, but I'd like to be able to use it in
>> (non-infra) ordinary
>> > campus or enterprise network, to inform people of their
>> rights/responsibilities
>> > in using a Printer.
>> >
>> > I'd like to be able to recommend it in IPP 2.0 next year.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > - Ira
>> >
>> > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>> > Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
>> > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>> > Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
>> > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
>> > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
>> > Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
>> > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
>> > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
>> > mailto: blueroofmusic at gmail.com
>> > Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
>> > Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com>
>> wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > It occurred to me while reviewing the current Cloud Imaging Model
>> document that we might want to have a way for a service to point a Client
>> to a web page providing legal terms of use for the service or system.  A
>> short proposal:
>> >
>> >     7.4.x printer-terms-of-use-uri (uri)
>> >
>> >     This Printer attribute provides a URL to a human-readable web page
>> providing the legal terms of use for the Printer, such as an End-User
>> License Agreement or service agreement. If supported, the value MUST refer
>> to a cacheable resource [RFC7234] to allow a Client to know when the terms
>> of use change.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > _________________________________________________________
>> > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>> >
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>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
>>
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