[IPP] Registered media-type values

[IPP] Registered media-type values

Michael Sweet msweet at msweet.org
Thu Dec 3 00:10:23 UTC 2020


Chris,

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> There is a typo in there "weavyweight".
> 
> Also, there is a stationery-bond in PWG 5101.1, but it is not at the registration site.  Is the registration site supposed to be the official superset of all names?

Yes.  I can make sure the registry is updated for stationery-bond...

> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> Christopher Rizzo
> Xerox Corporation
> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
> Phone: (585) 314-6936
> Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com
> 
> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
> -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer
> 
> From: Michael Sweet <msweet at msweet.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 11:46 AM
> To: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>
> Cc: PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org>
> Subject: Re: [IPP] Registered media-type values
> 
> Chris,
> 
> In general I'm in favor of adding these.  Some feedback below...
> 
> FWIW, the "media-back-coating", "media-front-coating", "media-recycled", and "media-weight" member attributes are supposed to be used for this stuff, but honestly they have very few implementations and are not needed 99.99% of the time.  We also have already added other "media-type" values that capture weight and coating...
> 
> Here is your request in the official registration template format (with my naming changes as noted below):
> 
> Attributes (attribute syntax)
>   Keyword Attribute Value                  Reference
>   -----------------------                  ---------
> media-type (type2 keyword | name(MAX))     [PWG5100.7]
>   cardstock-coated                         [XEROX20201202]
>   cardstock-heavyweight                    [XEROX20201202]
>   cardstock-weavyweight-coated             [XEROX20201202]
>   cardstock-lightweight                    [XEROX20201202]
>   cardstock-lightweight-coated             [XEROX20201202]
>   labels-heavyweight                       [XEROX20201202]
>   labels-lightweight                       [XEROX20201202]
>   stationery-recycled                      [XEROX20201202]
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Rizzo, Christopher via ipp <ipp at pwg.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to request the following media-types be added to the IPP IANA registry:
>> 
>> stationery-recycled
> 
> Funny, I thought we ended up adding this one already, but turns out not.  There was some discussion back in 2001 asking for it and stationery-bond, and neither ended up being added.
> 
>> cardstock-coated-lightweight
>> cardstock-coated
>> cardstock-coated-heavyweight
> 
> Based on stationery, these should have the weight first, e.g.:
> 
>     cardstock-lightweight-coated
>     cardstock-heavyweight-coated
> 
>> cardstock-lightweight
>> cardstock-heavyweight
>> 
>> labels-lightweight
>> labels-heavyweight
> 
>> 
>> Notes:
>>            • coated is a generic term that is used for (glossy, matte, etc) for devices that support this type of media that is not necessarily photo paper.
>>            • Our devices differentiate different media weights for labels and cardstock - this differentiation exists to address (among other things) adjustments that occur for media path tolerance.
>>                            • lightweight cardstock or labels refers to 106-169 gsm weight
>>                            • standard cardstock or labels (for which there are already existing registered keywords) refer to 170-256 gsm weight
>>                            • heavyweight cardstock or labels refers to 257-300 gsm weight
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>> 
>> Christopher Rizzo
>> Xerox Corporation
>> GDG/Discovery/Advance Technology
>> Phone: (585) 314-6936
>> Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com
>> 
>> "The realization came over me with full force that a good part of the remainder of my life was going to be spent in finding errors in my own programs."
>> -Maurice Wilkes, Memoirs of a Computer Pioneer
>> 
>> From: Michael Sweet <msweet at msweet.org>
>> Date: Friday, November 20, 2020 at 11:37 AM
>> To: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>
>> Cc: PWG Workgroup <ipp at pwg.org>
>> Subject: Re: [IPP] Registered media-type values
>> 
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>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Rizzo, Christopher via ipp <ipp at pwg.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear PWG,
>>> 
>>> PWG 5100.3 section 3.13.2 documents keyword values for media-type.  However, this list is incomplete for what our products need to report (for example, differentiation between photo-glossy vs. photo-matte, recycled paper, heavy cardstock vs. light cardstock, pre-punched etc.)
>> 
>> Correct, we are in the process of revising 5100.3, but all of the media-col content was moved to PWG 5100.7-2019 (JOBEXT 2.0) and the media type names were long ago moved to PWG 5101.1-2013 (MSN 2.0)
>> 
>>> RFC 8011 leads me to the IANA IPP registry, which leads me to PWG 5100.7, which leads me to PWG 5101.1, which leads me to a list that does not intersect with the list in PWG 5100.3.
>> 
>> All of the 5100.3 values minus the "screen" types *should* be in 5101.1-2013 - that is where we started when I did MSN 2.0.
>> 
>>> The document makes reference to RFC2534 for a registry of other types.  Where is this registry and how do I access it?  Is this separate from the IANA IPP registry?  And if the registered keywords are not sufficient are we forced to implement all media-type-xxx as name(MAX) instead of type3 keyword?
>> 
>> Actually type2 keyword now (type3 was eliminated by IETF), and the IANA IPP registry is now the master registry for media-type values.  RFC 2534 was about specifying media for web pages and honestly has no relation to the current CSS media handling.
>> 
>>> Going further, how does one go about registering new media-type keyword values?
>> 
>> The same as any other IPP keyword value - send an email to the list with your request and we'll discuss it.
>> 
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