PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule

PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule

Rick Seeler rseeler at adobe.com
Thu Mar 27 11:37:05 EST 2003


As for Adobe's travel policy, we were told not to travel until the end of the
first week in April.  We'll probably get an update on the policy, soon.

-Rick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pwg at pwg.org [mailto:owner-pwg at pwg.org] On Behalf 
> Of TAYLOR,BOB (HP-Vancouver,ex1)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:42 PM
> To: don at lexmark.com; Farrell, Lee
> Cc: Gail Songer; Harry Lewis; pwg at pwg.org
> Subject: RE: PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule
> 
> 
> Yep - but I do fear the people that will (or not) reimburse 
> for my travel expenses and sign my paycheck, who said "thou 
> shalt not get on an airplane". I'm personally hoping that 
> this gets lifted sooner than later (I have other travel 
> planned for April ...), but until it happens we won't know on 
> the HP side.  Traditionally these kinds of things start out 
> as a "ban" and then gradually relaxed - so if it follows 
> form, May is probably iffy, June probable.  This of course 
> depends on how everything shakes out - if things start to 
> stabilize, it'll probably happen sooner, but if things get 
> worse, it could be longer.
> 
> bt
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: don at lexmark.com [mailto:don at lexmark.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:41 AM
> > To: Farrell, Lee
> > Cc: Gail Songer; Harry Lewis; pwg at pwg.org
> > Subject: RE: PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I would agree with Lee.
> > 
> > Not only do we need to maintain our rotational approach to
> > meeting locations (east, middle, west, east, middle, 
> > west.....) but if we reduce the number of meetings to four, I 
> > believe we will significantly slow down the work.  There's no 
> > rational reason to avoid Washington DC, NYC, etc.  In fact, I 
> > was in NYC for the start of the war and will be back there in 
> > a little more than a week.
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > FDR: "The only thing we have to fear is fear it'self -
> > nameless, unreasoning, unjustified, terror which paralyzes 
> > needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."
> > 
> > Frank Herbert: "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
> > Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I 
> > will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and 
> > through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner 
> > eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be 
> > nothing. Only I will remain."
> > 
> > Benjamin Franklin: "They that can give up essential liberty
> > to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty 
> > nor safety."
> > 
> > Thomas Jefferson: "I would rather be exposed to the
> > inconveniences attending to too much liberty than to those 
> > attending to too small a degree of it."
> > 
> > Jewel Kiltcher: "The things you fear are undefeatable, not by
> > their nature, but by your approach."
> > 
> > and finally.....
> > 
> > Robert Heinlein: "Anyone who clings to the historically
> > untrue -- and -- thoroughly immoral doctrine that violence 
> > never solves anything I would advise to conjure up the ghosts 
> > of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them 
> > debate it. The ghost of Hitler would referee. Violence, naked 
> > force, has settled more issues in history than has any other 
> > factor; and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its 
> > worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid 
> > for it with their lives and their freedoms."
> > 
> > ----
> > 
> > Charge on!!
> > 
> > **********************************************
> >  Don Wright                 don at lexmark.com
> > 
> >  Chair,  IEEE SA Standards Board
> >  Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors
> >  f.wright at ieee.org / f.wright at computer.org
> > 
> >  Director, Alliances & Standards
> >  Lexmark International
> >  740 New Circle Rd
> >  Lexington, Ky 40550
> >  859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax)
> > **********************************************
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Farrell, Lee" <Lee.Farrell at cda.canon.com>@pwg.org on
> > 03/26/2003 02:19:59 PM
> > 
> > Sent by:    owner-pwg at pwg.org
> > 
> > 
> > To:    "Gail Songer" <gsonger at peerless.com>, "Harry Lewis"
> >        <harryl at us.ibm.com>, <pwg at pwg.org>
> > cc:
> > Subject:    RE: PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule
> > 
> > 
> > Gail,
> > 
> > I suppose New York itself is not the critical item in my
> > question about the October meeting.  [Although the idea of 
> > staying away from New York for all future business seems a 
> > bit unrealistic.  Surely by October, things will have settled 
> > down to an acceptable level of insecurity, no?]  I was just 
> > noticing that all future (proposed) locations seem to be on 
> > the western half of the Unitied States (Provo, 
> > Vancouver/Portland/Seattle, Las Vegas). Are we trying to 
> > avoid *any* east-coast venues?
> > 
> > lee
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gail Songer [mailto:gsonger at peerless.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:11 AM
> > To: Farrell, Lee; Harry Lewis; pwg at pwg.org
> > Subject: RE: PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For those of you with travel restrictions, do you have enough
> > history with them to have an idea of how long they might 
> > last?  Will we have to wait out the war and the orange alert?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know about anyone else, but personally, I'm not too
> > thrilled about traveling to New York.  (Says the girl who 
> > lives near a potential target for North Korean missiles)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Farrell, Lee [mailto:Lee.Farrell at cda.canon.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:55 AM
> > To: Harry Lewis; pwg at pwg.org
> > Subject: PWG> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Harry,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What's the fundamental goal here?  To revisit the schedule
> > for all future meetings in the year, or just up to (but not 
> > including) October?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is there any reason not to try to "squeeze in" four [newly
> > scheduled] meetings into the remainder of the year?  [For 
> > example, June 2-6, August 4-9, October 6-10 (why not still 
> > hold this in New York?), and December 1-5 seem reasonable 
> > goals for future meetings.  Eight week separation on average, 
> > but still allowing four face-to-face meetings for the rest of 
> > the year.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Given that this organization has already cut down this year's
> > schedule of meetings to only five, I would think that we 
> > should avoid reducing it to four if we can.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Any thoughts?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > lee
> > 
> > ===========================
> > Lee Farrell
> > Canon Development Americas
> > 110 Innovation Drive
> > Irvine, CA  92612
> > (949) 856-7163 - voice
> > (949) 856-7510 - fax
> > lee.farrell at cda.canon.com
> > ===========================
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl at us.ibm.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:29 AM
> > To: pwg-announce at pwg.org
> > Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rearranging PWG schedule
> > 
> > 
> > To recover from cancelation of D.C. I've prepared a
> > scheduling guide.  
> <ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/misc/DCRecovery.pdf>
>  ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/misc/DCRecovery.pdf
> 
> As you can see, two weeks in June appear to be the best 
> alternatives. Please identify any conflicts / alignments I 
> have missed. We need to settle on the next meeting date 
> quickly so people can reschedule their canceled flights. 
> People flying AA seem to have the shortest amount of time and 
> we may not be able to reschedule within their 2 day deadline! 
> In this case I recommend these people reschedule for the 
> Provo meeting in October.
> 
> PLEASE HOLD DISCUSSION OF THIS TOPIC ON pwg at pwg.org NOT pwg-announce!
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> Harry Lewis
> Chairman - ISTO Printer Working Group
> IBM Printing Systems
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
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