IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> NOT - How about using a new HTTP method for the "IPP Not

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> NOT - How about using a new HTTP method for the "IPP Not

RE: IPP> NOT - How about using a new HTTP method for the "IPP Not

Manros, Carl-Uno B (cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:46:20 -0800

Bob,

You are right. I have had a further chat with Josh Cohen, who also showed up
for our IPPEXT meeting yesterday.

We will see a revised GENA draft in a couple of weeks and should take a
closer look at GENA at that stage.

However, at present there seems to be little or no interest in GENA from the
IETF generally.

If we decide to use it for IPP, that could potentially change things.

Carl-Uno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herriot, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 7:32 PM
> To: Manros, Carl-Uno B; Paul Moore; IETF-IPP
> Subject: RE: IPP> NOT - How about using a new HTTP method for the "IPP
> Not ification Delivery Protocol over HTTP"
>
>
> Although most of the GENA draft deals with UDP, GENA also
> includes HTTP over TCP/IP.
>
> The main PRO for this proposal besides the one listed by
> Carl-Uno is that it is a general notification mechanism
> rather than one specifically for printing. If IPP supported
> such a mechanism and other applications used it, IPP would
> have other forces helping push the notification infrastructure.
>
> Bob Herriot
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manros, Carl-Uno B [mailto:cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 11:16 AM
> To: Paul Moore; IETF-IPP
> Cc: Keith Moore
> Subject: RE: IPP> NOT - How about using a new HTTP method for the "IPP
> Not ification Delivery Protocol over HTTP"
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I have just read the GENA draft today and have had a short
> chat with Yaron
> Goland, who is one of the co-authors, about it today.
>
> Here is my take on it:
>
> PRO: Microsoft has already prototyped this and planning to
> put into product
> (my guess: probably no earlier than 2nd half of 2000 or in
> 2001) so it might
> well become a de facto standard.
>
> CONS: The I-Ds are only personal contributions from the
> Microsoft folks. So
> far they have not found a home for this stuff in any of the
> existing IETF
> WGs, but might try to get it in under the IMPP WG umbrella.
> It is based on HTTP over UDP, which means a number of
> limitations listed in
> the draft you mentioned.
> In the Oslo meeting most of hardcore IETF people I spoke to
> did not think
> that this would fly in the IETF, but I will keep asking
> around this time as
> well. I will also try to corner Josh Cohen who is the main author from
> Microsoft.
>
> Carl-Uno
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Moore [mailto:pmoore@peerless.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 9:40 AM
> > To: Hastings, Tom N
> > Cc: Keith Moore; Ron Bergman; ipp; Parra, Hugo
> > Subject: RE: IPP> NOT - How about using a new HTTP method
> for the "IPP
> > Not ification Delivery Protocol over HTTP"
> >
> >
> > GENA is General Event Notification Architecture. See i-d
> > .....-cohen-gena-client-00.txt
> >
> > I was talking about Hugos proposal (the get notifications
> > proposal is not really
> > a notification system its smart polling).
> >
> >
>