IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notifica

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notifica

RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method by July 7

From: harryl@us.ibm.com
Date: Thu Jun 29 2000 - 09:12:27 EDT

  • Next message: Carl-Uno Manros: "RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery methodby July 7"

    I would amend Hugo's questions... and request that the options be as
    follows:

      a) over email
      b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
      c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
    direction)
      d) "Native" IPP notifications (new - augment IPP to allow multiple
    responses to any operation)
      e) over SNMP
      f) don't mandate any

    Harry Lewis
    IBM Printing Systems

    "Hugo Parra" <HPARRA@novell.com>
    Sent by: owner-ipp@pwg.org
    06/28/2000 08:15 PM

            To: <cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com>, <carl@manros.com>,
    <pmoore@peerless.com>
            cc: <ipp@pwg.org>
            Subject: RE: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification
    delivery method by July 7

    Shouldn't the options be ...

      a) over email
      b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
      c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
    direction)
      d) over SNMP
      e) don't mandate any

    Otherwise those who give each entry a weight of zero, basically through
    away their vote.

    -Hugo

    >>> "Carl-Uno Manros" <carl@manros.com> 06/28/00 07:52PM >>>
    Oh no, I managed to not be completely clear after all.

    The weighting is for the IETF standards texts.

    What gets tested in the bake-off is the decision of the PWG, which hosts
    the
    bake-off event, and has nothing to do with this exercise.

    Carl-Uno

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org]On Behalf Of
    > pmoore@peerless.com
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 5:47 PM
    > To: Manros, Carl-Uno B
    > Cc: IETF-IPP
    > Subject: Re: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery method
    > by July 7
    >
    >
    > If this is a vote for making things mandatory :-
    >
    > 0 a) over email
    > 0 b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
    > 0 c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
    > direction)
    > 0 d) over SNMP
    >
    > I dont think mandating is useful
    >
    > If this is a vote for 'what specs do we need to agree and bakeoff ASAP'
    >
    > 2 a) over email
    > 0 b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
    > 2 c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
    > direction)
    > 0 d) over SNMP
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "Manros, Carl-Uno B" <cmanros@cp10.es.xerox.com> on 06/28/2000 05:17:16
    PM
    >
    > To: IETF-IPP <ipp@pwg.org>
    > cc: (bcc: Paul Moore/AUCO/US)
    >
    > Subject: IPP> ADM - Pick your favorite notification delivery
    > method by July 7
    >
    >
    >
    > All,
    >
    > The IETF does not do voting, but we can ask people to allocate weights
    to
    > their favorite method. From the result I hope to get a picture of
    > whether we
    > have a clear "rough consensus" favorite, or if we should just avoid
    trying
    > to make any particular notification delivery method the "required" or
    > "mandated" one.
    >
    > So let the weightings begin!
    >
    > Here are the rules:
    >
    > 1) We have 4 candidate notification delivery methods, briefly
    > described as:
    >
    > a) over email
    > b) over IPP (a.k.a. intelligent polling)
    > c) over INDP (new IPP-like protocol, but works in the opposite
    direction)
    > d) over SNMP
    >
    > 2) You have a total of maximum 4 weight points to allocate between the 4
    > methods above.
    >
    > a) You can put all your 4 points on one favorite and leave the
    > other three
    > with 0 each. (the 'all eggs in one basket' option)
    > b) If you don't really mind which method, you can give 1 point to each
    of
    > the methods. (the 'chicken' option)
    > c) You can allocate your 4 points somewhere between the two extreme
    cases
    > above. (the 'diplomatic' options)
    > d) If you don't want to make ANY of the methods "required" or
    "mandated",
    > put a 0 for ALL four methods! (the 'don't even try it' option)
    >
    > If you still haven't understood the rules, please read the above
    > text 3 more
    > times, before you make a fool of yourself....., or of me for not
    > being clear
    > enough ;-{
    >
    > So please collect your wits and send your weights to the IPP DL no later
    > than next Friday July 7!
    >
    > Have fun.... and remember that if you do not participate you cannot win!
    >
    > Carl-Uno
    >
    > Carl-Uno Manros
    > Principal Engineer - Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
    > 701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
    > Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
    > Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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