IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard,

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RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

From: don@lexmark.com
Date: Mon Apr 09 2001 - 13:04:13 EDT

  • Next message: Manros, Carl-Uno B: "RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available"

    There is no IPP meeting scheduled for Portland at the request of the IPP chair
    nor is there a UPD meeting in Portland. With IPP fax having only 3/4 of a day,
    I can't be sure there would be time to fit this discussion in there. I do not
    want to entertain technical discussions at the Plenary as it is a business
    meeting (not a technical one.)

    So unless a small group wants to schedule an informal meeting one evening......

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    "Manros, Carl-Uno B" <cmanros%cp10.es.xerox.com@interlock.lexmark.com> on
    04/06/2001 02:42:09 PM

    To: "Hastings, Tom N" <hastings%cp10.es.xerox.com@interlock.lexmark.com>,
          "'Bergman, Ron'" <Ron.Bergman%Hitachi-hkis.com@interlock.lexmark.com>,
          "'RonBergman@aol.com'" <RonBergman%aol.com@interlock.lexmark.com>
    cc: "'pwg@pwg.org'" <pwg%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com>, "'ipp@pwg.org'"
          <ipp%pwg.org@interlock.lexmark.com> (bcc: Don Wright/Lex/Lexmark)
    Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

    All,

    As a last minute comment I would like to suggest extending the time to
    finish this document to span the next PWG meeting.

    It seems to me that there is still too much discussion and too many lose
    ends to close and publish this document quite yet...

    Carl-Uno

    Carl-Uno Manros
    Manager, Print Services
    Xerox Architecture Center - Xerox Corporation
    701 S. Aviation Blvd., El Segundo, CA, M/S: ESAE-231
    Phone +1-310-333 8273, Fax +1-310-333 5514
    Email: manros@cp10.es.xerox.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com]
    Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:14 AM
    To: 'Bergman, Ron'; 'RonBergman@aol.com'
    Cc: 'pwg@pwg.org'; 'ipp@pwg.org'
    Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

    Ron,

    Unfortunately, I checked the wrong delivery service on the web site when I
    ordered the ASME Y14.1M a week ago Friday and it is being delivered by truck
    from New Jersey to LA and won't arrive until next Tuesday or Wednesday. The
    guy who I could get the numbers over the phone when home early today, so
    we're out of luck. I'm on vacation next week.

    So maybe we add these sizes later, perhaps as a corrigendum or during last
    call.

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hastings, Tom N
    Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 16:06
    To: Bergman, Ron; Hastings, Tom N; RonBergman@aol.com
    Cc: pwg@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

    I just ordered a copy from the ASME. It should be here next Tuesday.

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bergman, Ron [mailto:Ron.Bergman@Hitachi-hkis.com]
    Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 07:38
    To: 'Hastings, Tom N'; RonBergman@aol.com
    Cc: pwg@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

    Tom,

    I do not have access to ASME-Y14.1M, so I am unable to do this
    research. Do you have a copy?

         Ron

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Hastings, Tom N [mailto:hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:14 PM
    To: RonBergman@aol.com
    Cc: pwg@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: IPP> RE: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

    IPP (RFC2911) has a number of media names that include engineering sizes
    taken from [ASME-Y14.1M]. For some reason we only included them as media
    names (e.g., iso-a1x3-transparent), and not as media size names (e.g.,
    iso-a1x3) in IPP. These size names are:

    iso-a1x3, iso-a1x4
    iso-a2x3, iso-a2x4, iso-a2x5
    iso-a3x3, iso-a3x4, iso-a3x5, iso-a3x6, iso-a3x7
    iso-a4x3, iso-a4x4, iso-a4x5, iso-a4x6, iso-a4x7, iso-a4x8, iso-a4x9

    Should we add them?

    Someone should look at [ASME-Y14.1M] and get the proper length dimensions
    (which aren't in IPP), to go with the width dimensions which are in IPP.

    Thanks,
    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: RonBergman@aol.com [mailto:RonBergman@aol.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 11:48
    To: pwg@pwg.org; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: PWG> Media Names Standard, Version D0.5 Available

    The latest version is now available at:

    ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/media-sizes/pwg-media-05.pdf

    The major change is the merging of the envelope sizes
    with the other tables and the separation of the media
    type with the size. In addition I have added the
    definition of a format for custom media types and color
    per a request from Norbert.

    There are still two open issues that I am waiting for
    clarification from Tom.

    1. Tom added a reference [REG] in section 3, but no
    corresponding entry in the References section.

    2. The ABNF for the size name in section 5.1 may be
    incorrect. I am not an ABNF expert, but I believe that
        | "-" | "-" ) should be simply | "-" )

    I will try to attend the IPP teleconference tomorrow
    to discuss any other issues concerning this document.

         Ron Bergman
         Hitachi Koki Imaging Solutions



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