IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Us

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Us

RE: IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Usage [adding an IPP refe rence and a clarification]

From: Hastings, Tom N (hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com)
Date: Fri Apr 20 2001 - 18:21:55 EDT

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    Ron,

    I did a lousy job of proof-reading the Appendix.

    I believe that the Media Size Self Describing Name can be used as keyword
    values of the "media" Job Template attribute, including the
    "media-supported", "media-default", and "media-ready" Printer attributes.
    This is the most important contribution of the Media Standard to IPP/1.1
    usage. So an extra line should be added to table about IPP/1.1:

    Media Size Self Describing Name

    keyword values of the "media" Job Template attribute, including the
    "media-default", "media-ready", and "media-supported" Printer attributes

    I also think that we need to add the phrase "keyword values of the" in front
    of the entry for using Media Type Names as values of the "media" attribute,
    so that it is clear that these Name values are to be represented in IPP as
    'keyword' values, not as 'name' values, since the "media" attribute has
    both: "media" (type3 keyword | name(MAX)). This clarification is
    particularly important since our PWG Media Standardized Names standards
    calls these values: "Names", not "keywords". Without such a clarification,
    we could have serious interoperability problems. Remember that a client
    should try to localize a 'keyword', but not a 'name', before displaying it
    to a user. Also a 'name' value has a natural language associated with it,
    either explicitly or implicitly, while a 'keyword' does not.

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: RonBergman@aol.com [mailto:RonBergman@aol.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 16:04
    To: harryl@us.ibm.com
    Cc: hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: RE: IPP> Appendix to Reference Existing Usage

    Harry,

    This doesn't really commit us either way, but it does
    lower the expectation. I don't see any problem.

         Ron

    In a message dated Wed, 18 Apr 2001 5:03:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    "Harry Lewis" <harryl@us.ibm.com> writes:

    << Why conjecture about what we will or won't attempt to do in the future?
    Why say anything?
    ----------------------------------------------
    Harry Lewis
    IBM Printing Systems
    ----------------------------------------------

    RonBergman@aol.com
    Sent by: owner-ipp@pwg.org
    04/17/2001 08:17 PM

     
            To: <hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com>
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    Tom,

    Good suggestion! I am going to reword slightly.
    "...this document; existing references will suffice."
    Too many "standards" in the original!

       Ron

    In a message dated Tue, 17 Apr 2001 9:56:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    "Hastings, Tom N" <hastings@cp10.es.xerox.com> writes:

    << Ron,

    We might also add a sentence to indicate that we don't intend to keep
    updating this Appendix when additional standards are published that could
    use our names and/or reference our Media standard, such as UPnP. How
    about
    adding the following to the end of the first paragraph:

    No attempt will be made to update this appendix when additional standards
    reference this standard; such references to this standard will suffice.

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: RonBergman@aol.com [mailto:RonBergman@aol.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 09:24
    To: ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: IPP> Appendix to Reference Exisitng Usage

    Here is my proposal for a reference appendix that defines the usage of
    media
    names in existing standards. This is a compact version of the recent
    proposal from Tom Hastings.

    I intend to include this appendix in the next version of the Media Names
    specification.

       Ron Bergman
       Hitachi Koki Imaging Solutions

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