IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods]

RE: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods]

From: Hastings, Tom N (Tom.Hastings@xerox.com)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2008 - 19:31:25 EST

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    Ira wrote:

    The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate,
    because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method
    supported by the majority of network printers.

    I have a .doc file for an Internet-Draft for a standard track IETF
    document. Does someone want to turn that into an IEEE-ISTO draft

    Here is the start of it:

    Internet Printing Protocol WG Robert Herriot
    INTERNET-DRAFT Tom Hastings
    <draft-ietf-ipp-notify-mailto-04.txt> Carl-Uno Manros
    Updates: RFC 2911 Xerox Corp.
    [Target Category: standards track] Henrik Holst
    Expires: January 17, 2002 i-data international a/s
                                                               July 17, 2001

                         Internet Printing Protocol (IPP):
               The 'mailto' Delivery Method for Event Notifications

          Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000). All Rights Reserved.
    Status of this Memo

       This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with
       all provisions of Section 10 of [RFC2026]. Internet-Drafts are
       working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its
       areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also
       distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts.

       Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months
       and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any
       time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference
       material or to cite them other than as "work in progress".

       The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at

       The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed as


       This document describes an extension to the Internet Printing
       Protocol/1.0 (IPP) [RFC2566, RFC2565] and IPP/1.1 [RFC2911, RFC2910].
       This document specifies the 'mailto' Delivery Method for use with the
       "IPP Event Notifications and Subscriptions" specification [ipp-ntfy].
       When IPP Notification [ipp-ntfy] is supported, the Delivery Method
       defined in this document is one of the RECOMMENDED Delivery Methods
       for Printers to support.

       For this Delivery Method, when an Event occurs, the Printer
       immediately sends an Event Notification via an email message to the
       Notification Recipient specified in the Subscription Object. The
       message body of the email consists of Human Consumable text that is
       not intended to be parsed by a machine. The Notification Recipient
       receives the Event Notification in the same way as it receives any
       other email message.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
    Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 15:52
    To: Michael R Sweet; Ira McDonald
    Cc: Whittle, Craig; Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes

    Hi Mike,

    Yes - notification by polling means ippget.

    The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate,
    because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method
    supported by the majority of network printers.

    - Ira

    On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Michael R Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
    > Whittle, Craig wrote:
    > > All:
    > >
    > > The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at:
    > >
    > > 21.pdf
    > Comments (and hopefully I'll be able to "attend" next week's
    > > Need to find out what is in CUPS 1.3 and what will be in CUPS 1.4.
    > CUPS 1.3:
    > CUPS 1.4:
    > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/trunk/doc/help/spec-ipp.html
    > Right now the only difference between 1.3 and 1.4 is the addition of
    > a new CUPS-specific "get document" operation.
    > > Notification by polling should be considered. E-mail notification
    > > is dead as an IPP specification.
    > Presumably polling == ippget/RFC 3996?
    > --
    > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System

    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
    Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
    email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
      579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176
      PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839

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