IPP Mail Archive: Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods]

Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods]

From: Ira McDonald (blueroofmusic@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2008 - 19:47:25 EST

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    Hi Tom,

    That document (IPP Email Notifications) was formally abandoned after
    Ricoh stated that they held relevant patents and would NOT license
    those patents. The PWG will never take up IPP Email Notifications
    again. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

    Cheers,
    - Ira

    On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Hastings, Tom N <Tom.Hastings@xerox.com> wrote:
    > Ira wrote:
    >
    > The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate,
    > because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method
    > supported by the majority of network printers.
    >
    >
    > I have a .doc file for an Internet-Draft for a standard track IETF
    > document. Does someone want to turn that into an IEEE-ISTO draft
    > standard?
    >
    > Here is the start of it:
    >
    > Internet Printing Protocol WG Robert Herriot
    > INTERNET-DRAFT Tom Hastings
    > <draft-ietf-ipp-notify-mailto-04.txt> Carl-Uno Manros
    > Updates: RFC 2911 Xerox Corp.
    > [Target Category: standards track] Henrik Holst
    > Expires: January 17, 2002 i-data international a/s
    > July 17, 2001
    >
    > Internet Printing Protocol (IPP):
    > The 'mailto' Delivery Method for Event Notifications
    >
    > Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000). All Rights Reserved.
    > Status of this Memo
    >
    > This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with
    > all provisions of Section 10 of [RFC2026]. Internet-Drafts are
    > working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its
    > areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also
    > distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts.
    >
    > Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months
    > and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any
    > time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference
    > material or to cite them other than as "work in progress".
    >
    > The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at
    > http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt
    >
    > The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed as
    > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html.
    >
    > Abstract
    >
    > This document describes an extension to the Internet Printing
    > Protocol/1.0 (IPP) [RFC2566, RFC2565] and IPP/1.1 [RFC2911, RFC2910].
    > This document specifies the 'mailto' Delivery Method for use with the
    > "IPP Event Notifications and Subscriptions" specification [ipp-ntfy].
    > When IPP Notification [ipp-ntfy] is supported, the Delivery Method
    > defined in this document is one of the RECOMMENDED Delivery Methods
    > for Printers to support.
    >
    > For this Delivery Method, when an Event occurs, the Printer
    > immediately sends an Event Notification via an email message to the
    > Notification Recipient specified in the Subscription Object. The
    > message body of the email consists of Human Consumable text that is
    > not intended to be parsed by a machine. The Notification Recipient
    > receives the Event Notification in the same way as it receives any
    > other email message.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Tom
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira
    > McDonald
    > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 15:52
    > To: Michael R Sweet; Ira McDonald
    > Cc: Whittle, Craig; Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org
    > Subject: Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes
    >
    > Hi Mike,
    >
    > Yes - notification by polling means ippget.
    >
    > The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate,
    > because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method
    > supported by the majority of network printers.
    >
    > Cheers,
    > - Ira
    >
    > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Michael R Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
    > wrote:
    > > Whittle, Craig wrote:
    > > > All:
    > > >
    > > > The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at:
    > > >
    > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-200802
    > > > 21.pdf
    > >
    > > Comments (and hopefully I'll be able to "attend" next week's
    > telecon):
    > >
    > > > Need to find out what is in CUPS 1.3 and what will be in CUPS 1.4.
    > >
    > > CUPS 1.3:
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/branches/branch-1.3/doc/help/spec-ipp.
    > html
    > >
    > > CUPS 1.4:
    > >
    > > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/trunk/doc/help/spec-ipp.html
    > >
    > > Right now the only difference between 1.3 and 1.4 is the addition of
    > > a new CUPS-specific "get document" operation.
    > >
    > > > Notification by polling should be considered. E-mail notification
    > > > is dead as an IPP specification.
    > >
    > > Presumably polling == ippget/RFC 3996?
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > ______________________________________________________________________
    > > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System
    > Engineer
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
    > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
    > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
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    >

    -- 
    Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
    Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
    Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
    email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
    winter:
      579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176
      734-944-0094
    summer:
      PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839
      906-494-2434
    


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