Hi Ira,
5100.3 covers a Client using the Job Sheets feature via "job-sheets-col", which extends "job-sheets" with the ability to specify a "media" or "media-col" with the sheets.
But what the Printer actually renders and prints onto the job sheets themselves isn't covered. The assumption seems to be that the content to be printed on the job sheets is implementation-specific. If I as an operator wanted the job sheet to present my organization's logo, the user's name, date, job name, printing statistics and print quota status, I would presumably need to create this myself using something provided by the printer vendor?
Am I missing something?
Smith
> On Dec 11, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Smith,
>> No need for System Service updates.
>> As Mike observed earlier in this thread, job-sheets-col (PWG 5100.3 Production Printing) already
> covers this feature.
>> Cheers,
> - Ira
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>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 12:15 PM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy at hp.com>> wrote:
> Ah, good point!
>> Should there be an addition to System Service to support banner page management? Or are we going to consider banner pages a resource managed out-of-band of IPP? System Service doesn't seem to have that currently.
>> Smith
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com <mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Smith,
>>>> Except that Client-side banner pages can't include info known only to the Printer
>> (which typically is included in banner pages) such as actual time of printing.
>>>> Cheers,
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>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:05 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) <smith.kennedy at hp.com <mailto:smith.kennedy at hp.com>> wrote:
>> If the Printer supported IPP "overrides", it might also be possible for a driver upstream of the IPP client to support this as a "driver feature" by adding a page to the start and/or end of the Job's Document and using "overrides" to specify the media source / type for the added banner pages.
>>>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet at apple.com <mailto:msweet at apple.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> There isn't anything specifically you can do in CUPS for the banners - it will use the same paper/tray settings for the banners as for the rest of the job.
>>>>>> There is a job-sheets-col attribute (defined in PWG 5100.3: Production Printing Attributes - Set 1) that provides more control. At present this attribute is not supported by CUPS.
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 5:17 PM, pipitas <pipitas at gmail.com <mailto:pipitas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> What is the canonical IPP-ish way to request printing of a job-sheet on different media (or media drawn from a different paper tray)?
>>>>>>>> I remember many years ago to have hacked some PostScript files for a big institutional customer who required red separator sheets because thousands of their students shared a few dozen "public" printers: I then equipped the PostScript/banner files with some 'setpagedevice' statements, saved them to /usr/share/cups/banners/ and, presto, whenever such a sheet was requested it printed from the paper tray specified by setpagedevice.
>>>>>>>> Is there an IPP-defined job attribute that lets me order job-sheets to be printed on a specific medium?
>>>>>>>> Now that modern CUPS doesn't by default use banners/job-sheets any more which are PostScript files, what is another valid way to do achieve this with PDF files (or even with application/vnd.cups-banner files)?
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