[MFD] [IPP] Don't redefine Hardcopy Document

[MFD] [IPP] Don't redefine Hardcopy Document

[MFD] [IPP] Don't redefine Hardcopy Document

Ira McDonald blueroofmusic at gmail.com
Wed Aug 7 15:16:22 UTC 2013


Hi,

Which I think implies that I'd like to rename AddHardcopyDocument to
AddScanDocument.

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> At the risk of adding confusion...
>
> We speak of submitting Jobs with document data by reference (URI)
> or by value (attached).
>
> Why not just add "by scan (local scanner)".
>
> What I don't like about the term "Hardcopy Document Object" is that
> the word Scan or Scanner isn't there, but this is always the source.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> PS - I dislike putting titlecase prefixes on Document Object or Job
> Object - it muddies readability.
>
>
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto:blueroofmusic at gmail.com
> Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
> Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Zehler, Peter <Peter.Zehler at xerox.com>wrote:
>
>>  Mike,****
>>
>> Well, I guess I’ll be quiet now except to say it would be a good time to
>> describe the attributes and constraints on all three types of Documents.
>> J****
>>
>> Pete****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Peter Zehler
>>
>> Xerox Research Center Webster
>> Email: Peter.Zehler at Xerox.com
>> Voice: (585) 265-8755
>> FAX: (585) 265-7441
>> US Mail: Peter Zehler
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>> Webster NY, 14580-9701 ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet at msweet.org]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:14 PM
>>
>> *To:* Zehler, Peter
>> *Cc:* IPP at pwg.org; mfd at pwg.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [IPP] Don't redefine Hardcopy Document****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Pete,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I guess we are in violent agreement.  One comment below.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 2013-08-06, at 12:54 PM, "Zehler, Peter" <Peter.Zehler at xerox.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>>  ...****
>>
>> This is the difference between a Hardcopy Document and a Hardcopy
>> Document /Object/. We need to define the latter and not the former.****
>>
>> <PZ>I see no subclasses of Documents in the PWG Semantic Model or IPP.
>> Whether a document is added to a Job by value, by reference, or by
>> reference to the output of the scanner subunit, it is still just a Document
>> object. ****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> I am not suggesting a subclass of document.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> We already categorize documents as "referenced" and "with attached
>> document data". For hardcopy documents we would have a Document Object
>> containing description attributes/elements that identify the source and
>> properties of the hardcopy document.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I chose to call it a "Hardcopy Document Object" as opposed to a "Document
>> Object with Associated Hardcopy Document Input Elements".  How the digital
>> representation is stored and when exactly the document is scanned are,
>> IMHO, implementation specific.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> _____________
>> Michael Sweet****
>>
>> ** **
>>
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