As you know, Novell has been very interested over the past few
meetings in starting to drum up interest in Internet Printing. We feel like
we have some good ideas, and are looking to share those and build on
those in an open environment like the PWG.
After the initial meeting in San Diego, we at first had almost no response.
Then we seemed to get flooded with companies who were insterested
in "doing something." We have put together a working paper that has a
pretty clear direction, but still needs much work - work we hope to get
done within the PWG in a very open and cooperating way. Do not view
the press release as much of an annoucement of a done deal, all signed,
sealed, and delivered, but as a call to participate. Don put out an e-mail
after the NY meeting to invite all who wanted to participate to come and
join with the PWG. The actual Novell press release can be found at
http://www.novell.com (click "New," then click "Hot Off the Press")
There are several approaches to standards work: take an idea, make it
available, and pound people over the head with it until they are half
bloody, they fall over dead, and then you take silence as a sign of
agreement. Or, start a group discussion from a blank sheet of paper and
end up with a large collection of semi-related ideas. Or take some well
thought out ideas, share them, and then try to reason out the issues
with some base to build from. Hopefully we fall into the last catagory.
My goal is that we can form an Internet Printing Project under the
umbrella of the PWG. The infrastructure is already in place, and the
interest is rising. One of the common criticisms of the PWG is that there
are very few "systems" companies involved. Spinning up a project like
this should go a long way to improve that and bring more people in.
One of my action items from the NY meeting was to put together
proposed charter, with goals and deliverables for the November meeting.
I have asked Don to make sure that we have some time on the agenda to
talk about this. I know that we have some very time critical issues to
finish up on the PMP, so I hope that this does not get in the way.
As far as coordinating with other groups (working groups) we need to
find out who they are and what they are doing. I know the MFPA is very
interested in this as well as some discussion on the IETF-FAX mailing list
As far as possible agenda items for New Orleans related to Internet
- Propose a new PWG project for Internet Printing
- Discuss a charter for the working group
- Review of LDPA proposal
- Enumerate a list of related working groups and identify contacts and
strategies for interacting with these groups
- Clearly identify and enumerate related standards and technlogies
- Assign recruiters to invite people/companies who might not be involved
Now that I list it all out, this sounds like too much for November, but I hope
that we can squeeze in some time. What's the agenda look like Don?
Scott A. Isaacson
Print Services Consulting Engineer
Novell Inc., 122 E 1700 S, Provo, UT 84606
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>>> JK Martin <jkm at underscore.com> 10/24/96 02:18pm >>>
Attached is a synopsis of a message just sent out to the MFPA mailing
containing a series of press releases for a new technology initiative
spearheaded by Novell.
With all the recent discussion in the PWG regarding "Internet Printing",
it's a little surprising these press releasees haven't been posted to the
PWG mailing list sooner, particularly since several key PWG participant
companies are cited as "supporting companies" in the press releases.
Don is currently in the process of setting up the agenda for the upcoming
PWG meeting in New Orleans, and if "Internet Printing" is going to be part
of the agenda, then would it be reasonable to ask Novell to brief the PWG
on this technology initiative at the New Orleans meeting?
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ens/GELDNER #4, from OTC_NewsAlert, 2930 chars, Oct 22 09:20 1996
****novell proposes internet printing standard
OREM, UTAH, U.S.A., 1996 OCT 21 (Newsbytes) -- By Ian Stokell.
Just as the need for users on different hardware platforms to
communicate and share information has led to the explosive interest in
use of Internet technologies and protocols, particularly the World Wide
Web, for in- house corporate networks in the form of intranets, so the
to share and print documents over the Internet has led to a demand for a
new standard for cross-platform printing. Now Novell Inc.
says it is not only developing such a standard for printing across the
Internet, but has already received support for the standard from major
computing firms as well.
Novell says 12 print "industry leaders" have announced support for the
new technology standard that will enable printing across the Internet.
The standard is intended to simplify the ISO 10175 protocol used by
major print vendors, which will basically allow printing compatibility
Said Marc Epstein, vice president and general manager of Novell's
Network Services Division, "There is a great need for creating a
that will enable users to send and control print jobs to remote printers
attached to the Internet."
In November, Novell intends to submit a protocol specification to the
Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) concerning the technology, in the
form of an Internet Draft called Lightweight Document Printing Application
A number of major printer vendors have announced support for
with Novell toward the completion of the IETF standard. They include
Canon, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Lexmark, QMS, Ricoh, Sharp,
Toshiba, and Xerox.
In a world where standalone corporate and end-user printing is fast
disappearing, notes Newsbytes, the application of the specification to a
variety of image-oriented technologies would be a major plus. Along
lines, the Multi-Function Peripheral Association (MFPA) says it has also
"committed to endorsing the proposed Internet Draft." The MPFA will
to "extend and modify this specification to support faxing, scanning,
copying, and other multifunction device capabilities."
According to Novell, the would-be standard would enable printer
to improve printing compatibility, which in turn would allow users to
"locate and print to resources across Internet and intranet connections
easily as across local area networks (LANs)."
A number of print services are already based on the ISO 10175
including Novell's Distributed Print Services, Hewlett- Packard's
Distributed Print Service, IBM's Print Systems Manager, and Printxchange
(19961021/Press Contact: Richard Ling, Novell Inc., 408-577-6331,
Internet e-mail rlingnovell.com)
ens/GELDNER #5, from PR_News, 9076 chars, Oct 22 09:20 1996
Novell Proposes Internet Printing Standard with Support from Print
Adobe, Canon, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Lexmark, Novell, QMS, Ricoh,
Sharp, Tektronix, Toshiba and Xerox Join to Support Standard Print
for the Internet
OREM, Utah, Oct. 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Novell, Inc. (Nasdaq: NOVL)
announced support from twelve print industry leaders for its initiative to
drive the creation of a new technology standard to enable printing
the Internet. If adopted, this proposed standard will simplify the ISO
10175 protocol used by major print vendors today for ease of printing
the Internet and corporate intranets. This will also present print vendors
with the compatibility they need to support the broad range of new and
existing systems their customers use today. Toward this goal, Novell will
submit a protocol specification to the Internet Engineering Task Force
(IETF) in the form of an Internet Draft called Lightweight Document
Printing Application (LDPA) in November. Major print vendors in support
working with Novell toward a complete IETF standard include Adobe,
Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel, Lexmark, QMS, Ricoh, Sharp, Tektronix,
and Xerox. The Multi-Function Peripheral Association (MFPA) has also
committed to endorsing the proposed Internet Draft and will work to get
input from its members to extend and modify this specification to support
faxing, scanning, copying and other multifunction device capabilities.
As more organizations implement intranets and enable Internet access,
they face challenges printing documents across these expanded
this proposed standard is adopted and implemented, printer
and print service providers will be able to offer businesses ready-to-use
solutions for sending print job requests and controlling print jobs to
printers across the Internet and corporate intranets. This standard will
also enable printer vendors to provide better printing compatibility, so
users can locate and print to resources across Internet and intranet
connections as easily as across LANs. Several print services, including
Hewlett-Packard's Distributed Print Service(TM), IBM's Print Systems
Manager(TM), Printxchange(TM) from Digital, Sun and Xerox, and Novell
Distributed Print Services(TM) are all based on the ISO 10175 standard,
commonly referred to as the DPA standard. With support for the
Internet Draft protocol, printer vendors will be able to increase printer
compatibility, allowing users to easily send and manage print jobs.
"There is a great need for creating a standard that will enable users to
send and control print jobs to remote printers attached to the Internet,"
said Marc Epstein, vice president and general manager of Novell's
Services Division. "NetWare print services are the world's leading
printer sharing solution today, making it the de facto standard. Because
this, Novell is in the best position to help drive the adoption and
evolution of Lightweight DPA through the IETF. This Internet Draft
furthers Novell's commitment to developing and supporting standards for
"Novell is taking an existing, accepted ISO printing standard, modifying
it to be simple enough to use as an Internet standard, and making it run
over Internet protocols," said Bob Fennell, director and principal printer
analyst of Dataquest. "Novell and its vendors are in a leadership position
in network printing by taking a major step in defining protocols for the
Internet." Leading Printer Vendors United in Support of Creating Internet
Twelve printing industry leaders representing manufacturers and print
services will participate in the standards process.
"Adobe enthusiastically supports Novell's goal to create a standard for
submission and control of print jobs via the Internet," said George
Cacioppo, vice president of Production Imaging Engineering at Adobe
Incorporated. "Adobe will work to integrate LDPA in our Internet printing
and job management solutions. We believe that the device and service
independent job specifications along with reliable, secure job submission
provided by LDPA will resolve key issues in printing to intranets and
"Hewlett-Packard has an established working relationship with Novell
define and develop robust networking solutions," said Marc Gunning,
marketing manager, Intranet Solutions Operation, Hewlett-Packard.
"Internet and intranet printing is a natural evolution of our network
printing initiatives and we look forward to continued efforts with Novell
on these future printing technologies."
"Based on our experience developing two standards-based print
systems (Printing Systems Manager for enterprises and our
solution for workgroups) we understand the industry's need for Novell's
proposed standard," said Kerry Bensman, director of Software
Printing Systems Company. "We will continue to support industry
in our forthcoming solutions, thereby enabling our customers to leverage
their investment in printers and networks."
"Lexmark has strongly supported the development of printer
standards through the IEEE, the Printer Working Group and the IETF," said
Glenn Hudson, vice president and general manager, Attachment
Lexmark International, Inc. "We strongly support Novell's efforts in this
area and are committed to working within the industry to refine this
proposal into a broadly accepted standard."
"The MFPA strongly agrees that a standard method to control
Internet-based printing is a key enabling technology for
peripherals. This blends well with MFPA work and the general direction
the industry, as presented at our annual Integrated Office Conference
(IOC)," said Raymond Lutz, executive council chair of the Multifunction
Peripheral Association (MFPA). "The job submission paradigm announced
Novell will provide a rich control capability that can be used for the
Internet, corporate intranets and advanced facsimile-based jobs. The
is eager to support further development in this area and have established
Web-based discussion forum for further collaboration."
"Xerox believes that an open standard for job submission and control is
a benefit to customers using the Internet and is in keeping with the
principles that make the Internet a success," said John Kavazanjian, vice
president and general manager of Xerox Network Software. "LDPA and
DPA standard leverages an existing and robust standard that will make it
easier for our Prinxchange customers to utilize their continued
and to plan for the future."
The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is a large international
community of network designers, operators, vendors and researchers
concerned with the evolution of the Internet architecture and the smooth
operation of the Internet. It is open to any interested individual or
company. The actual technical work of the IETF is done in its working
groups, which are organized by topic into several areas (e.g., routing,
network management, security, etc.). Further information about the IETF
can be accessed on the World Wide Web at
Founded in 1983, Novell is the world's leading provider of network
software. The company offers a wide range of network solutions for
distributed network, Internet, intranet and small-business markets. Novell
education and technical support programs are the most comprehensive
network computing industry. Information about Novell's complete range
products and services can be accessed on the World Wide Web at
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