WIMS> WIMS Minutes - Counter spec updated

WIMS> WIMS Minutes - Counter spec updated

WIMS> WIMS Minutes - Counter spec updated

Harry Lewis harryl at us.ibm.com
Fri May 27 12:46:39 EDT 2005

Bill, the minutes are just a cut and paste of the e-mail so you didn't 
miss anything. 

1. Sounds like we need to do a scan of the Counter Spec for highlighted 
areas and figure out if there is an action item or not.
2. Not sure what you mean by "aggregation of counters at the lower level 
counter classes". Data/Aux/Main/Waste/Unknown are all aggregated into 
"Work" at the Service level and "Work" from each Service is aggregated 
into "WorkTotals" for the System. No? If it is not this simple and 
hierarchical I think we need to understand why not! 
3. We tried to gain clarity by simplifying the names. So, we changed 
"Counter Elements per Service" to "Service Counters" and "System Totals 
Counter Elements" to "System Counters". Makes sense to me but I must be 
missing something. Would it be more accurate if we changed the title of 
Fig 5 to "System Totals Counters"? I must be missing the significance of 
the word "elements" in the title as distinct from "counters".

Much appreciate your taking time to comment. I know you are supposed to be 
off the radar. 
Harry Lewis 
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
IBM Printing Systems 

wamwagner at comcast.net 
05/27/2005 10:25 AM

Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM at IBMUS, wims at pwg.org

Re: WIMS> WIMS Minutes - Counter spec updated

Sorry, I cannot read the minutes on this borrowed machine, so I may be 
missing some of the details of the dicussion. But:
1. Highlighted areas generally relate to last call comments related 
changes that have not been specificaly agreed to in context by the group.
2. I agree that my fig 5 was cluttered, but I think the revised version 
may be misleading in that it does not illustrate the aggegation of 
counters at the lower level counter clases. I suggest that someone less 
familiar with the spec consider whether the figure helps or hurts 
3. I also disagree with the renameing of Figure 4 and 5, in that  "Service 
Counters"  and "System Counters" appear to relate to counters of services 
or systems, which is not what the figures refer to.
Bill Wagner
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Based on Thursday's WIMS conference call the following updates have been 
included in the Counter Spec. 


1. Resolved previous issue on pg. 9. Impression contains both highlight 
color and full color... how is it counted? Answer - Full color (always 
count in terms of highest use). This notation added to definitions for 
Full Color and Highlight color. 
 - Question - Why is full-color hyphenated but highlight-color is not? 
Let's have it one way or the other. 
 - Question - Why is the definition of Highlight Color - Impressions 
generated that use one highlight colorant. Why not "one or more" highlight 
colorants? There can be a multi highlight color device. 

2. Change title of Fig 3 

3. Change title of Fig 4 

4. Replace Fig 5 with revised diagram supplied by Jerry T. 

5. Change title of Fig 5 

6. Added Jerry Thrasher as author (Jerry please verify for accuracy) 

Still need to address some random yellow highlighting... not sure which 
are ar! tifacts and which require attention 

Per discussion, Ira is working on drafting some brief design requirements 
to add up front as distinct from conformance requirements. Why did we do 
Counters, what industry problem does it address, what are the high-level 
design imperatives. 

Some definitions are lacking sources. Ira has agreed to review definitions 
for proper sources. Others are invited to participate in this activity. 

Minutes (copy of this e-mail) posted 


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Harry Lewis 
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
IBM Printing Systems 
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