WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST

WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST

WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST

McDonald, Ira imcdonald at sharplabs.com
Wed Feb 14 22:04:33 EST 2007

Two more agenda topics:
2b. Review Rick's slides for WIMS-CIM Alignment session at:
4. Review Rick's latest revision of CR for CIM_PrintOutputTray at:
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald at sharplabs.com 

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With Glen W. Petrie comments 

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The next CIM alignment  concall is at 2PM EST on Thursday, 15 February.
Sorry I am so late with this announcement and that I have not posted the
minutes of the last call. I have been looking for my notes, but evidently
left them in Boulder.
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1. Clarification of Ira-Rick communications.
2. Review of presentation material for face to face. See HYPERLINK
Need to coordiate with Rick's presentation. Check on Milestones
3. Discussion of Glen W. Petrie comments (attached) w/r to Counter Spec.
HYPERLINK "ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20070205.pdf" \n

Bill Wagner
Glen W. Petrie comments 


Is "raw traffic" defined in the Semantic Model; otherwise, I think it should
be added to this document.

I was really surprised at the definition of Image; image is a very general
term and here is represents something very, very specific.

For Media Used does the term " media types" include both media size and
type;  i.e. there could several media that are the same type but of
differing size in a single job.

For Monochrome impression I propose the first part of the definition read as

        " A Monochrome Impression is an Impression imposed using [versus
requiring] a single colorant..... 

For Number-Up I suggest - The number of [remove: user Job] logical pages to
be imposed on each side of on a [remove: single media] Sheet.


I don't understand whe some of the definition define things as objects.  For
example does the Service need the words "An abstract object the represents
...." or is a Service just "A software component of a network...."   Same
note applies to the definition of System - I really don't think of a System
as an abstract object as defined here; it is just "A network host
[computing] device.....".     In the text of the standard, it does appear
the Service and System are a "software component" and "computing device"
versus the abstract objects of them.  

For Sheet I suggest - A [remove] Sheet is a single instance of a medium.
[remove rest of line]

For Simplex - The printing of impressions on only one side of each Sheet.
[remove rest of line]

Add Single-Sided - A synonym for Simplex.  [add this because two-sided is

For Waste - I don't believe that "non-productive ...." are the right words;
the words make it sound like something not necessary was generated and
printed by design.  I'm not sure what words to use... but Waste Impression!
s has g ood start.


On page 19, second paragraph; first sentence; the word "consumable" add
clarification since all media would be consumable for printing.


In many of the table the units are in "1024 octets" and then there is a unit
is bracket called "koctets".  I had understood that "k" was an old notation
and was being.  Specifically, "k" means 1000 and "Ki" means 1024.  So the
units should be "KiOctets" following the current notation of "KiB" (versus

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