WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST

WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST

WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST

Richard_Landau at Dell.com Richard_Landau at Dell.com
Thu Feb 15 15:30:49 EST 2007


Glen, 
 
Replied to one of your comments, inline below.   
 
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Subject: WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST


With Glen W. Petrie comments 
 

	-------------- Original message -------------- 
	From: wamwagner at comcast.net 
	
	The next CIM alignment  concall is at 2PM EST on Thursday, 15
February. Sorry I am so late with this announcement and that I have not
posted the minutes of the last call. I have been looking for my notes,
but evidently left them in Boulder.
	 
	 
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	1. Clarification of Ira-Rick communications.
	 
	2. Review of presentation material for face to face. See
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/WIMS_WG_meeting_Feb_2007.pdf
	Need to coordiate with Rick's presentation. Check on Milestones
	 
	3. Discussion of Glen W. Petrie comments (attached) w/r to
Counter Spec.
	<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscount10-20070205.pdf>

	 
	Thanks
	 
	Bill Wagner
	 
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	Glen W. Petrie comments 

	Definitions

	Is "raw traffic" defined in the Semantic Model; otherwise, I
think it should be added to this document.

	I was really surprised at the definition of Image; image is a
very general term and here is represents something very, very specific.

	For Media Used does the term " media types" include both media
size and type;  i.e. there could several media that are the same type
but of differing size in a single job.

	For Monochrome impression I propose the first part of the
definition read as

	        " A Monochrome Impression is an Impression imposed using
[versus requiring] a single colorant.....  

	Disagree strongly.  An accidentally monochrome image from a
color source (that is, a color image that happens to contain only one
non-blank color channel) is processed very differently from an image
that contains only one channel of color data.  The halftoning done by
the printer RIP, for instance, is very different for images with
different color channels, and produces very different results.  

	We should continue to specify a monochrome image as one that
*requires* only a single colorant.  A color image that accidentally
consumes only one colorant is still a color image, albeit with
impoverished color saturation.  

	(It took me several hours recently to explain the difference to
an expert photographer who was baffled by the interaction between his
Photoshop actions and his color and monochrome printers.  The
differences were easily visible to the naked eye, but I had to show him
the reason for the differences with a microscope.)

	 

	For Number-Up I suggest - The number of [remove: user Job]
logical pages to be imposed on each side of on a [remove: single media]
Sheet.

	

	I don't understand whe some of the definition define things as
objects.  For example does the Service need the words "An abstract
object the represents ...." or is a Service just "A software component
of a network...."   Same note applies to the definition of System - I
really don't think of a System as an abstract object as defined here; it
is just "A network host [computing] device.....".     In the text of the
standard, it does appear the Service and System are a "software
component" and "computing device" versus the abstract objects of them.  

	For Sheet I suggest - A [remove] Sheet is a single instance of a
medium. [remove rest of line]

	For Simplex - The printing of impressions on only one side of
each Sheet. [remove rest of line]

	Add Single-Sided - A synonym for Simplex.  [add this because
two-sided is included]

	For Waste - I don't believe that "non-productive ...." are the
right words; the words make it sound like something not necessary was
generated and printed by design.  I'm not sure what words to use... but
Waste Impression! s has g ood start.

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	On page 19, second paragraph; first sentence; the word
"consumable" add clarification since all media would be consumable for
printing.

	=========

	In many of the table the units are in "1024 octets" and then
there is a unit is bracket called "koctets".  I had understood that "k"
was an old notation and was being.  Specifically, "k" means 1000 and
"Ki" means 1024.  So the units should be "KiOctets" following the
current notation of "KiB" (versus "kb")

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