IFX Mail Archive: RE: Fwd: RE: Question on FaxConnect Results..

IFX Mail Archive: RE: Fwd: RE: Question on FaxConnect Results..

RE: Fwd: RE: Question on FaxConnect Results..

Michael Crawford (mcrawford@iready.com)
Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:33:58 -0800

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Webb [SMTP:nwebb@auco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 4:42 PM
> To: mcrawford@iready.com
> Cc: dwing@cisco.com; rshockey@ix.netcom.com; ifx@pwg.org
> Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: Question on FaxConnect Results..
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> How about the time/date? GSTN fax typically puts the time on the top of
> the
> page and, since it's the sender that generates the watermark, must be the
> time of the sender. If the cover page is generated at the receiving end,
> are there any regulations / problems with the time being from the
> receiver's perspective rather than the sender's? I guess that could be
> supplied along with the sender's ID.
>
*** I think this can be fixed with an X-header or somesuch,
indicating the sender's time. However, I don't know how we solve that for
IPP or other transports. But the idea would be to pass
forward the sender's time...and the receiver uses that for the
watermark, just like legacy fax does today.

Mike Crawford
iReady Corporation

> Nick Webb
> Auco, Inc.
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> mcrawford@iready.com on 02/04/99 16:47:56
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> To: dwing@cisco.com, rshockey@ix.netcom.com
> cc: ifx@pwg.org (bcc: Nick Webb/AUCO/US)
> Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: Question on FaxConnect Results..
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> Isn't the issue a legal requirement in some states and some
> countries...i.e. page 1 of ... and who originated the document.? If this
> is the case, then
> the user benefits from a watermark, assuming
> this kind of data is part of that watermark. And may be in fact required
> to have the watermark for the document to be useable for any number of
> transactions. Or did I miss something? (ignorance is bliss?)
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> Mike Crawford
> iReady Corporation
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Wing [SMTP:dwing@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:39 PM
> > To: Richard Shockey
> > Cc: ifx@pwg.org
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: Question on FaxConnect Results..
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> > On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:12:39 -0600, Richard Shockey wrote:
> >
> > > Everyone might be interested in this thread from the IFAX list ...I
> was
> > > trying to clarify the status of the fax "watermark" in IFAX
> > transactions.
> > >
> > > In GSTN the _sender_ inserts this into the TIFF incoded image.
> >
> > Nit: In GSTN fax there is no TIFF encoded image.
> >
> > Actually, in GSTN fax, the sender inserts a watermark onto transmitted
> > pages.
> >
> > In IPP the sender is already identified, so I don't believe an
> > IFX-compliant sender needs to incur the overhead of generating a
> per-page
> > watermark -- other mechanisms exist in IPP (and SMTP for the ifax case)
> to > identify the IFX sender.
> >
> > Not to mention that multiple hops, each identifying themselves by
> > slightly occluding the top of each page cause degradation -- something
> > that need not occur (and is not expected by users to occur) with digital
> > documents and digital transmission.
> >
> > -Dan Wing
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