[IPP] Questions about the 'finisher-max-capacity' and 'finisher-capacity' keys for the "printer-finisher" attribute (Finishings 2.1)

[IPP] Questions about the 'finisher-max-capacity' and 'finisher-capacity' keys for the "printer-finisher" attribute (Finishings 2.1)

Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) smith.kennedy at hp.com
Thu Jan 7 21:41:44 UTC 2021


Hi Steven,

> On Jan 7, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Steven Young via ipp <ipp at pwg.org> wrote:
> 
> Smith,
> 
> Happy New Year!
> 
> I sent the draft to CINC for their review.  The following is their understanding and would like your confirmation:
> 
> In Figure 2 - PAPI Example of "printer-finisher"
> printer-finisher[1] = "index=8;
>                       type=stitcher;
>                       unit=sheets;
>                       maxcapacity=500;
>                       capacity=100;"
> 
> Our understanding is as follows:
> type(IPP) = finDeviceType(RFC3806)
> unit(IPP) = finDeviceCapacityUnit(RFC3806)
> maxcapacity(IPP) = finDeviceMaxCapacity(RFC3806)
> capacity(IPP) = finDeviceCurrentCapacity(RFC3806)
> 
> So, finDeviceMaxCapacity is the maximum capacity of finDeviceType finishing can handle with the unit of finDeviceCapacityUnit. Right?
> 
> In the case of type=stacker and unit=sheets,  finDeviceMaxCapacity indicates the maximum number of sheets that can be loaded,  and finDeviceCurrentCapacity indicates the remaining number of sheets.
> 
> If our understanding is correct, the example in Figure 2 type=stitcher allows stapling 500 sheets of paper at a time.
> (Similarly, in Figure 2, when type=puncher, 100 holes can be made at a time.)
> 
> We would like to know our understanding of finDeviceMaxCapacity and finDeviceCurrentCapacity is correct.
> 
> Can you please confirm that.
> 
> 

(Below is the response I gave you in our private conversation.)

I don't know the answers. The definitions for finDeviceMaxCapacity and finDeviceCurrentCapacity in RFC 3806 aren't clear at all on what a maximum capacity or current capacity means in the context of a finisher. Ira, can you provide any clarifications on these?

It also seems a bit too wide open to let the printer choose the unit type.

Your example also raises an interesting question about stackers. The Finishing MIB defines 'stacker' as a finisher type. But IPP "finishings-col" doesn't have a representation for stackers - it considers a stacker to be an "output-tray".

Mike, what do you think we ought to do about the FinDeviceTypeTC types in the Finishing MIB that don't have IPP equivalents in finishings-col?

FinDeviceTypeTC ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
    STATUS       current
    DESCRIPTION
      "The defined finishing device subunit process
       enumerations."
    SYNTAX       INTEGER {
         other(1),
         unknown(2),
         stitcher(3),
         folder(4),
         binder(5),
         trimmer(6),
         dieCutter(7),
         puncher(8),
         perforater(9),
         slitter(10),
         separationCutter(11),
         imprinter(12),
         wrapper(13),
         bander(14),
         makeEnvelope(15),
         stacker(16),
         sheetRotator(17),
         inserter(18)
        }




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