IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> notification methods

IPP Mail Archive: RE: IPP> notification methods

RE: IPP> notification methods

From: Zehler, Peter (Peter.Zehler@usa.xerox.com)
Date: Fri Aug 11 2000 - 12:01:30 EDT

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    Carl,

    I don't know who your ISP is but mine has no control over a server running
    on my host. They do control the length of my IP lease. In my case the
    lease lasts hours. Certainly enough time for a notification. (Not enough
    time to host a business...they charge for that.)

    I can have a fixed IP address and I can have multiple IP addresses if I so
    desire. The use of INDP assumes programmatic interactions in near real
    time. If I build an application that relies on this it may well impose
    requirements on system/network configurations as well as influence the
    components I buy.

    I see a real need for programmatic as well as end user notification. We
    should be specifying and building enabling technologies. Our role should be
    enable policy not to enforce it.

    Pete

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: kugler@us.ibm.com [mailto:kugler@us.ibm.com]
    Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 5:25 PM
    To: jkm@underscore.com
    Cc: ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: Re: IPP> notification methods

    It's equally impractical in the road warrior scenario. Most ISPs won't let
    you run a server unless you pay them for the privilege.

    SOHO is another problem. Windows Connection Sharing and other network
    address translation schemes are often used so that multiple hosts on a LAN
    can all reach the Internet through a single IP address allocated by the
    ISP. Of course, ISPs will be happy to sell you more addresses, for a
    monthly fee...

    So, it's impractical for enterprise, SOHO, and dial-up. What does that
    leave? Possibly some university networks (and Lexmark ;-) ); I can't
    think of much else.

         -Carl

    Jay Martin <jkm@underscore.com> on 08/04/2000 02:53:08 PM

    Please respond to jkm@underscore.com

    To: Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM@IBMUS
    cc: ipp@pwg.org
    Subject: Re: IPP> notification methods

    Carl,

    Ah, now you've caught my attention... ;-)

    > Me and 99% of other end users in the real world. INDP over the Internet
    is
    > not impossible, just impractical.

    We must assume your term "end users in the real world" refers to
    enterprise environments, right?

    That is, if the "real world" implies a usage scenario describing a
    "Road Warrior sitting in her hotel room wanting to print a document
    at a local copy shop", then in your opinion can INDP satisfy those
    99% of "real world" users? Or is it equally impractical as in the
    enterprise environment?

         ...jay



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