[IDS] Question regarding PWG 5110.3-2013 - PWG Common Log Format

[IDS] Question regarding PWG 5110.3-2013 - PWG Common Log Format

[IDS] Question regarding PWG 5110.3-2013 - PWG Common Log Format

Michael Sweet msweet at apple.com
Tue Apr 14 20:52:35 UTC 2015


Chris,

Thanks for the info, my comments are below...

> On Apr 9, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com> wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Not sure if I should respond to you directly or how to access my original question - is there a forum URL?

The IDS WG mailing list is the proper forum.  You can also report spec issues at:

    https://www.pwg.org/issues

(you'll need to create an account on the web site to file new issues...)

After reviewing this list an errata update to clarify the requirements might be in order, e.g., "Every job message MUST provide the applicable general parameters defined in section 5.1 and the applicable job parameters defined in section 5.3". (or something like that)

I think it would also be useful to say that parameters can be omitted only if they were not specified and cannot be generated by the service - 

> Here is the list in the spec (the ones we can obviously do are labeled ok)
> 
> Section 5.1:
> DeviceUUID (DUU) - ok
> Event (E) - ok
> LogNaturalLanguage (NL) - ok
> Status (S) - ok
> <service>URI (URI) - ok
> UserHost (UH) - ok
> UserName (UN) - ok
> UserRole (UR) - ok
> UserURI (UU) - Where do we get this?  Job requests don't usually include a User URI.

You can get it from the authenticated user info, but this should be omitted otherwise I think.

> Section 5.3:
> JobID (JID) - ok
> JobUUID (JUU) - ok
> JobImagesCompleted (JIM) - ok
> JobImpressionsCompleted (JIC) - ok
> JobDestinationURI (JD) - For Fax jobs, this must be the destination number(s), but for print jobs would this be the URI of the printer object?

Omit for Print jobs. Include for Scan jobs if push scanning is used. Always include for FaxOut jobs.

(not sure what to say about FaxIn jobs, but there should be some accounting of where the incoming Fax job is routed...)

> JobState (JS) - ok
> JobStateReasons (JR) - ok
> JobAccountingID (JA) - If accounting is not enabled, this does not apply, include it but leave it blank?

I think it is better to omit when it hasn't been specified. Might be provided/derived/defaulted from the authenticated user info as well.

> JobAccountingUserName (JAUN)  - If accounting is not enabled, this does not apply, include it but leave it blank?

See above.

> JobAccountingUserURI (JAUU) - If accounting is not enabled, this does not apply, include it but leave it blank? Also, as for (UU) where does the value come from?

Either specified by the Client or derived from the authenticated user info.

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> Christopher Rizzo
> Xerox Corporation MS 7060-368
> 26600 SW Parkway Ave.
> Wilsonville, OR 97070
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> Email: Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com
> 
> From: "msweet at apple.com" <msweet at apple.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2015 at 8:52 AM
> To: Christopher Rizzo <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com>
> Cc: IDS Work Group <ids at pwg.org>
> Subject: Re: [IDS] Question regarding PWG 5110.3-2013 - PWG Common Log Format
> 
> Chris,
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Rizzo, Christopher <Christopher.Rizzo at xerox.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Per PWG 5110.3-2013 section 4.3 Job Message Format, "Every job message MUST provide the general parameters defined in section 5.1 and the job parameters defined in section 5.3".
>> 
>> Is this statement to be taken literally, meaning that for conformance ALL attributes in sections 5.1 and 5.3 MUST be in the log, even if for some events they do not apply?
> 
> Do you have an example of parameters that are not applicable for a particular event?
> 
> _________________________________________________________
> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
> 

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Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair



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