The Wims 2007 Archive by thread
2007 Archives by thread
Starting: Mon Jan 8 11:12:02 EDT 2007
Ending: Sat Dec 29 14:30:48 EDT 2007
Messages: 344
- WIMS> CIM & Counter Spec>11 Jan Concall at 2PM EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> How to represent SubUnitStatus in CIM?
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> new CIM schema v2.14 available.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Slightly revised spreadsheet of mapping of properties to classes.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> [PDF] Slightly revised spreadsheet of mapping of p
roperties to classes.
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> How to represent SubUnitStatus in CIM?
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> [print OK] new CIM schema v2.14 available
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> FW: [members] Request for implementation experience for CIM V2.15
Zehler, Peter
- WIMS> CIM> First test of mofpretty
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> mofpretty testing of ugly stuff: A+
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> RE: CIM> mofpretty testing of ugly stuff: A+
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM 25 Jan Concall at 2PM EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - January 25, 2007 teleconference minutes posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> Progress on MIB to MOF translation
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
Farrell, Lee
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
Farrell, Lee
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
Farrell, Lee
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Further Progress on MIB to MOF translation
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Revision to Counter Spec
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> [PDF] Revision to Counter Spec
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Further Progress on MIB to MOF translation
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Posted CIM_PrintOutputTray.mof [5 Feb 2007]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM & Counter Spec 8 Feb Concall at 2PM EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> Minor update to PrintClassGroupings
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> PrintOutputTray CR posted
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Posted 4 Printer subunit MOF classes [8 Feb 2007]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> [PDF] Minor update to PrintClassGroupings
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Posted CR for CIM_PrintOutputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> [Bugs - missing Write] Posted CR for CIM_PrintOutp
utTray
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Posted 4 subunit MOF classes [11 Feb 2007]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Precedent for ifIndex reference in CIM MOFs
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> RE: Some comments from Glen on the PWG Counter Spec
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Thu 15 Feb 2pm EST - tentative telecon?
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> updated CIM Core CR for PrintOutputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> slides for WIMS-CIM Alignment session
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> updated CIM Core CR for PrintOutputTray
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Re: CIM 15 Feb Concall at 2PM EST
Petrie, Glen
- WIMS> Posted slides for PWG Wtly Projector&Display Mgt session
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Posted slides for PWG Wtly Projector&Display Mgt session
Farrell, Lee
- WIMS> Counter Spec Comments
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Posted slides for PWG Wtly Projector&Display Mgt sessio
n
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - February 15, 2007 teleconference minutes posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the March 8, 2007 teleconference and face-to-face meeting posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the March 22, 2007 teleconference
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Teleconference postponed - Please review proposal for scope reduction
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Teleconference postponed - Please review proposal for scope reduction
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Teleconference postponed - Please review proposal for scope reduction
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - [slides] Please review proposal for scope reduction
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the April 5, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the April 12, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the April 19, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the PWG-CIM Alignment Working Group -- April 26, 2007 Piscataway face-to-face meeting posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the May 10, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the May 10, 2007 teleconference posted
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the June 7, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the June 7, 2007 teleconference posted
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the September 13, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the October 25, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the November 29, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the December 6, 2007 teleconference posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from the December 12, 2007 face-to-face meeting posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Minutes from JUL (Bellevue) face-to-face meeting posted
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> Posted new CIM_PrintOutputTray (22 Feb 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Posted new CIM_PrintOutputTray (26 Feb 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> No concall this week
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> Posted new CR for CIM_PrintOutputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted 3 CIM Print classes (27 Feb 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> [Review new MOFs for next week] No concall this week
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> FW: Print Dialog GUI - Printer type design clusters
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> RE: PMP> [Service to Subunit mapping] MFP Alerts Meeting Minutes,
February 19, 2007; Maui
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM Core discussion on PrintOutputTray CR *still* pending.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM Core discussion on PrintOutputTray CR *still* pendi
ng.
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Color Highlighted Print MOFs
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - PUnits --> PUnit (singular)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> what to do to PrintOutputTray this week.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM>9 Mar Concall at 2PM EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - Posted CIM_PrintOutputTray (8 March 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> PrintOutputTray yet again, new CR and new MOF
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Notes from CIM Core WG discussion this morning.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Reminder - CIM - Thursday 22 March
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM Conference Call- Thursday 22 March 2PM EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> New Definitions for Counter spec
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Posted OutputTray (22 March 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Posted OutputTray (23 March 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Reposted fixed OutputTray (23 March 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> posted new mofoutput zip
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted four CIM Printing MOFs (29 March 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Proposed NEW TIME for WIMS telecon - please reply ASAP
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Proposed NEW TIME for WIMS telecon - please reply ASAP
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Posted draft Counter MIB v2 (31 March 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Proposed NEW TIME for WIMS telecon - please reply ASAP
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> 5 April Concall at Noon EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> RE: Counter MIB v1 - PWG Informational status
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Posted prettified MOFs in mofoutput
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> RE: C ounter MIB v1 - PWG Informational Status
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> just posted new CR draft for PrintOutputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> RE: Counter MIB v1 [Samsung prototype ideas]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> FW: Counter MIB v1 [Samsung prototype ideas]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Posted new CR for PrintOutputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Call for Objections - Update to PWG Candidate Standard 5106.1-2005 - PWG Standard for Imaging System Counters
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> FW: ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes - due Wed 11 April
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> REMINDER - 12 April Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM: 12 April Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes - due Wed 11 April
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> FW: PWG-ANNOUNCE> ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes - due Wed 11 April
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Updated PrintOutputTray CR once again
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> RE: ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes - due Wed 11 April
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> CR for PrintOutputTray delayed a week.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> FW: ACTION - Ordered list of CIM MOF classes - due Wed 11 April
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> FW: New IETF WG - LAWMO - Lock and Wipe Management Object
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> 19 April Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> posted draft slides for WIMS-CIM session at f2f
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> There is one possible candidate for EnabledLogicalElement
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Yet another new version of CIMCoreCR00901 posted
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> DMTF - Ballot 'CIMCoreCR00901 - Add new class CIM_PrintOutputTray to enhanced printer device model.' has closed
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Posted draft Counter MIB v2 (23 April 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> There is one podssible candidate for EnabledLogicalElement
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> WIMS Face to Face Subjects
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> OutputTray - Next Steps
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> There is one podssible candidate for EnabledLogicalElement
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - Posted OutputTray (25 April 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM -- Unable to call in
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> DMTF CIM v2.15 release posted
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Yet another new version of the PrintOutputTray CR.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Counter MIB-Scanner Subunit [scanner technology]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Status of OutputTray
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> 10 May Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - Posted Channel/Input/Marker (9 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> FW: MFD> Proposal for specific Scanner types in Counter MIB
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Forget icSubunitTechType object
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Order of subunit classes
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> PrintOutputTray is on its way!
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Posted CIM Core CR for PrintInputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM>New diagrams of CIM Printer and related classes
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Colorant Role is a C, right?
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Revised class groupings
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> RE: CIM> Colorant Role is a C, right?
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Two bugs each in InputTray and OutputTray
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> FW: Groups - DMTF - Ballot 'CIMCoreCR00930 - Add new class CIM_PrintInputTray to enhanced printer device model.' has been amended
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted Input/Marker/Supply (19 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Bug in MOF Groupings spreadsheet
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Posted Channe/Interpreter (22 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> REMINDER - Thu 24 May 12pm EDT - WIMS-CIM telecon
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> 24 May Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Re: 24 May Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - Posted InputTray/Marker (24 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> New version of CIM Core CR for PrintInputTray
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted major rewrite of InputTray (25 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> CR for PrintInputTray reballoted for this week.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted Marker/Supply/Assoc (31 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> New CIM Core CRs for PrintMarker, PrintSupply, and AssociatedPrintSupply
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Reposted Supply (31 May 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> New new CIM Core CRs for PrintMarker and PrintSupply
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - One more Supply (1 June 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> New new new CIM Core CR for PrintSupply
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Core CR for PrintInputTray passed.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> PrintOutputTray has been adopted for CIM schema v2.16.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Draft of State and Counter MIB v2 (1 June 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> 7 June Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> FW: Ira not seeing PWG email until Sunday
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Status of CIM Core CRs maintained in wiki.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted nine Printing classes (25 June 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> 28 June Noon EDT - WIMS-CIM Telecon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> New Visio diagrams of Printer classes.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Unfortunate typo in Finisher MIB
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> FW: [wg-cimcore] Groups - PWG pix of new Printer classes (Visio-Printer_11.pdf) uploaded
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> FW: Nit question on printer classes, but applies generally.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> New Visio and the first four CRs of the new batch.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Updated CRs
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> 28 June Minutes and draft F2F presentatuon
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Need status of Samsung prototype of ISC MIB?
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> DMTF Alliance Partner draft presentation
Whittle, Craig
- WIMS> CIM - Posted four printing classes (13 July 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> There's good news tonight!
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> New on FTP: many CRs.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted two Alert classes (17 July 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> When is next WIMS telecon?
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> When is next WIMS telecon?
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> Submitted Core CRs for two association classes.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Reminder - CIM - Thu 26 Aug 12pm EDT
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Concall: CIM - Thu 26 July 12pm EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Concall WIMS charter- Thu 26 July 12pm EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - Posted **last** two subunit classes (25 July 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> new mofoutput
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> PrintInputTray adopted by DMTF TC.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Re: Concall: CIM - Thur 9 August 12pm EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> FW: [CIM Mapping Good News!]
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Bugs in recent MOFs
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Minutes of Thur 9 August Concall
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> When are counters reset, if ever?
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted 3 printing classes (14 August 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> When are counters reset, if ever?
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM - Abandon AssociatedPrintChannelEndpoint class
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Status of CRs in Core: passed. And new news.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Updated CIMCoreCRs yet again again again.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Hiccup on CIMCoreCR00946 (PrintSupply)
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Note to CIM Core chairs re planned changes to printer model.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> new version of CR for PrintSupply.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Final msg to Hand, FYI. And the reply in the CR says much the same thing.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Reminder - Next WIMS - Thu 30 Aug 12pm EDT
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM - Posted four classes (28 August 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> Concall: CIM - Thur 30 August 12pm EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> Some progress on the CR front.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> CIMCoreCR00946 (CIM_PrintSupply) is adopted.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> All four CRs passed this week!
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Concall: CIM - Thur 13 September 12pm EDT
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> MIB - Expanding string lengths in Counter MIB
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> WIMS-CIM slides for F2F meeting Thurs PM (long session) posted
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Submitted two more CRs to Core
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> MIB - Prototype draft of State and Counter MIB (14 Sept 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> MIB - Status of Counter MIB prototyping
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> News from Core session today: slight progress.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> New HTML Flat Classes for CIM schema v2.16
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - PrintAlertRecord (5 Oct 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Updated CR posted for CIM_PrintAlertRecord
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> Also posted CIM_PrintAlertLog.mof mofpretty output in mofoutput dir
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Conference Call Thirsday 11 Oct @12 noon ET
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> New mofpretty output for PrintInterlock
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Posted Interlock & ConsoleLight (12 Oct 2007)
McDonald, Ira
- WIMS> CIM> Updated CR for CIM_PrintAlertLog
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> CR status in DMTF Core WG
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Conference Call Thursday 25 Oct @12 noon ET
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> CIM> the DMTF DMWG Message Registry
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM - Order of next printing updates
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> Fwd: [W3C-I18N] Version 6 of Unicode Converter
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> Conference Call Thursday 8 Nov @12 noon EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> WIMS/CIM - Telecon Thu 8 Nov 12pm EST
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> CIM> Bzzzt Crackle Pop ... Is this thing working?
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> WIMS-CIM Telecon this week?
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> DMTF article on PWG alliance
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> WIMS/CIM conference call 29 Nov, 12 Noon EST
William A Wagner
- WIMS> 8 Nov Minutes
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> WIMS/CIM conference call 6 December, 12 Noon EST
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> Ira can't attend next Wed 12 Dec
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> CIM> Schedule for CIM Core changes to schema v2.18.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> Fwd: MFD> A Free XML Editor by Liquid Technology
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> CIM> New class diagrams for WIMS-CIM work posted
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> FW: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Slides posted for F2F WIMS-CIM WG session Wed.
Richard_Landau at Dell.com
- WIMS> CIM> [PDF of] Slides posted for F2F WIMS-CIM WG session Wed.
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> PDF of WIMS Plenary and WG Slides
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> PDF of WIMS Plenary and WG Slides
wamwagner at comcast.net
- WIMS> DMTF CIM v2.17 release - 14 Dec 2007
Ira McDonald
- WIMS> CIM - Thu 3 Jan 12pm EST - Next Telecon
Ira McDonald
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